Saul's Music Space

[Saul]

That's right, Saul! You are a YouTube god, no human could possibly teach you anything! Don't stop believing! Hold on to that feeling!

You can sit down now.

[Saul]

Saul, we have seen the e-mail you received via YouTube, so we take it as read that you are a great composer, who writes beautiful music.

I really could not take it upon myself to criticize anything that so great a composer has to say. And yet, while I have not the wit to discern just where it may be, I feel that there is some small mistake, somewhere, in your remark that my viola sonata is the worst ever.

Now, I know, I know, no human being can teach you anything, and so I must hope that one of God's angels will inspire you to discover the truth of the matter.  But I consider the following points:

1. My viola sonata was actually performed, in public. Offhand, I don't know whose the "worst viola sonata ever" might be, but it seems to me that a piece which was actually performed successfully to an audience, could not be that viola sonata.

2. The violist for whom I wrote the piece, failed to consider it "worst viola sonata ever." In fact, he wants to come to Boston to play it here.

3. The pianist — who we might almost expect to be partially disinclined to the piece, for it poses some technical difficulty — thinks well of the piece. That doesn't sound like the "worst viola sonata ever."

4. The violist's teacher is considering playing the piece. I cannot think that he would do any such thing if it were the "worst viola sonata ever."

5. The violist's dad liked the piece.  I know, it would have meant so much more if the piece were on YouTube, and if I had gotten such a response via e-mail, but I work with what I've got.

6. The violinist who (as it happened) turned pages for the pianist said of the piece, "It was awesome!"

It seems to me that any honest musician must consider that such a response from fellow musicians (yes, the violist's dad is a musician, too) could not possibly sustain the assertion that my Opus 102 is the "worst viola sonata ever."

And yet, how clear it is to all of us that no human being can teach you anything, and that none of us has any authority to correct you!  So I dare not even entertain the dark thought that you wrote something false, but that there must be some mistake somewhere, and in my musical unworthiness, I simply fail to understand you correctly.

Well, I consider your Viola Sonata a total waste of paper and time, an utterly useless work in my opinion.

I didn't write this as an affront or for any other reason or as a get back, I just don't like this kind of music, and I believe you did  a masterful job in creating the music that I cant stand and find no value in.

Had anyone else wrote it, I would have said the same thing.

Schoenberg's and Webern's music is also horrible music for me, which I consider a waste of space in the cosmos of this universe.

So you are in good company, its nothing personal.

If you want to impress me, which I gather you don't, you would have written something that had more order, charm, and natural progression from one theme to the next, in short some realistically sounding melodies and themes which are evident for the ear and mind to grasp.

In fact, I believe this is your worst work ever, I think you should stick with the Vocal Stuff, there at least you have some sense of inspiration. But this Viola sonata is your poorest achievement as of yet.

You know better then me that not everything that is performed means that its good.
Horrible composers many at times showcase their skills to the public not because they have something good to sell, but because they have better connections then most other musicians, don't play it like you don't know this Karl.



Now if you really want to impress me please write something along this line...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3KCi8R9P-g

[greg]

I don't think Karl is exactly concerned with impressing you. His music is intended for a different audience, not people who don't listen to anything past Chopin or Rachmaninoff.

Btw, that piece wasn't bad, but whoa!!! That's supposed to be in 6/8 time or something... (maybe 12/8 would work? idk) And why is the violin part under the piano part. Reading something like that is extremely disorienting, when the score of every violin sonata I've ever seen has the violin part on top.

[Saul]

I don't think Karl is exactly concerned with impressing you. His music is intended for a different audience, not people who don't listen to anything past Chopin or Rachmaninoff.

Btw, that piece wasn't bad, but whoa!!! That's supposed to be in 6/8 time or something... (maybe 12/8 would work? idk) And why is the violin part under the piano part. Reading something like that is extremely disorienting, when the score of every violin sonata I've ever seen has the violin part on top.

Blame Finale...

[greg]

Sibelius is much better man... seriously... have you tried it?

[Saul]

Sibelius is much better man... seriously... have you tried it?

No I didnt...

What's the price?

[greg]

No I didnt...

What's the price?

Same as Finale, unfortunately.

[karlhenning]

Notation software is of limited use to one who doesn't know how to notate music properly.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Notation software is of limited use to one who doesn't know how to notate music properly.

Finale doesn't let you use 6/8 as a time signature; it automatically converts such rhythms to 4/4. And it requires violin parts to be placed lower than piano parts.

[Saul]

Finale doesn't let you use 6/8 as a time signature; it automatically converts such rhythms to 4/4. And it requires violin parts to be placed lower than piano parts.

Did you hear what Mr. No said, Karl?

[DavidW]

Hey wait where can I hear Karl's piece?

[Saul]

Same as Finale, unfortunately.

They should make it free to encourage more music...

Anyways right now I'm watching some on line photography classes, its amazing how much these videos can help with composition, lighting, and perspective.

[karlhenning]

Finale doesn't let you use 6/8 as a time signature; it automatically converts such rhythms to 4/4. And it requires violin parts to be placed lower than piano parts.

You mean, they haven't debugged that yet?

[Saul]

Hey wait where can I hear Karl's piece?

Both the score and the midi of the first movement can be found here:

Score page 95

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,92.msg444980.html#msg444980

Midi page 89

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,92.msg436576.html#msg436576

[Mirror Image]

That's right, Saul! You are a YouTube god, no human could possibly teach you anything! Don't stop believing! Hold on to that feeling!

I LOVE IT! HA!

LOL.....

We get the picture(s) already.. Q.

[Mirror Image]

Blame Finale...

No, we'll blame your poor notating skills. You simply do not understand how to realistically compose a piece of music.

But I keep forgetting that Saul is a YouTube God now.

[Mirror Image]

Coming back to the Original Topic:

MUSIC.

Here's my Scherzo In A major - Presto for Solo Piano.

http://www.youtube.com/v/FzVBt3nv_UA

Probably one of the most lifeless, boring pieces I've ever heard.

[Mirror Image]

Becasue people are full of hate.

I never had any problem on CMG and Talkclassical about my music, its only here, cause some people here are full of hate.

If you don't like my music, don't post here, as simple as that.

People aren't full of hate, they're just tired of your BS and worthless egotistical temper tantrums that do nothing but continue to make you look childish.

[Scarpia]

Does anyone on either side think that this dead horse is really worth beating any more?

[Brahmsian]

Does anyone on either side think that this dead horse is really worth beating any more?

A great milestone post, Scarps.