Saul's Music Space

[Saul]

Get a music teacher. Learn how to properly notate music. You don't have a clue what you're doing.

The Egoguru has spoken...

Can you catch some eggs?

[Mirror Image]

The Egoguru has spoken...

Can you catch some eggs?

I thought you were ignoring me? Seems like I'm getting through to you. GET A MUSIC TEACHER. LEARN HOW TO PROPERLY NOTATE MUSIC. COMPOSE MUSIC THAT MEANS SOMETHING.

You will continue to go unperformed if you do not change your poor composing habits.

[Saul]

This is what you need MI:

http://www.youtube.com/v/njxI0FAocjc&feature=related

[Mirror Image]

This is what you need MI:

http://www.youtube.com/v/njxI0FAocjc&feature=related

I still thought you were ignoring me?

[(poco) Sforzando]

Are Saul and MI the same person? I'm having difficulty differentiating their posts.

Saul's the one who writes music that gets rave reviews on YouTube.

[Philoctetes]

Saul's the one who writes music that gets rave reviews on YouTube.

Ah..

That's true, Mr. No. I don't know how that could have slipped my mind.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Ah..

That's true, Mr. No. I don't know how that could have slipped my mind.

I am now named for a genre of Japanese drama?

[Philoctetes]

I am now named for a genre of Japanese drama?

Most definitely an honor.

[Luke]

This utterly hilarious series of posts seems to have gone unnoticed (hilarious beause of Saul's final stunning riposte, that is)

....Btw, that piece wasn't bad, but whoa!!! That's supposed to be in 6/8 time or something... (maybe 12/8 would work? idk) And why is the violin part under the piano part. Reading something like that is extremely disorienting, when the score of every violin sonata I've ever seen has the violin part on top.

Blame Finale...

Sibelius is much better man... seriously... have you tried it?

No I didnt...

What's the price?

Same as Finale, unfortunately.

Notation software is of limited use to one who doesn't know how to notate music properly.

Finale doesn't let you use 6/8 as a time signature; it automatically converts such rhythms to 4/4. And it requires violin parts to be placed lower than piano parts.

Did you hear what Mr. No said, Karl?

More seriously, I rejoined this thread after a few hours away to this post by Saul:

I thought that I agreed with those points, not every composer knows anything about everything, its a life long study.

and I wanted to say that, yes, of course it's a lifelong study, even a composer with hunreds of fine work, commissions, performances etc. under his belt like Karl knows full well that his music can still develop, can become even better, faultless though it is on the technical and notational level (did you notice, btw, when he was composing that viola sonata that you hate, that he consulted with violists and other string players, and pianists too, all along the way, so that the thing could acually be played?). But that the errors people have tried to help you with are not tiny details, they are huge whopping great first-lessons-out-of-the-textbook ones. There is a difference, you know.

[karlhenning]

YouTube gods do not need textbooks!

[Saul]

YouTube gods do not need textbooks!

So what do they need?

[Gurn Blanston]

Good point. I'm done talking to Saul. He'll never listen to anybody and sure as hell won't take anybody's advice.

This is a good thought. Now would be a great time to take your own advice because if you keep going down this road the label "miserable Internet stalker' will somehow seem appropriate. I know there are lots of things that you're interested in, let's pursue some of them, shall we?

Thanks,
GB

[Saul]

This is a good thought. Now would be a great time to take your own advice because if you keep going down this road the label "miserable Internet stalker' will somehow seem appropriate. I know there are lots of things that you're interested in, let's pursue some of them, shall we?

Thanks,
GB

LOL Gurn!

You're the best!

[karlhenning]

You believe that [Henning's] work is beyond critisizm [sic] just because he happened to write it correctly?

Correct music can be ugly too.

The first statement is a strawman. Sforz is fair-minded, and I do not imagine he considers any work, even correctly written, as "beyond criticism" (which is more than we can say for your spelling).

The second statement is, in the abstract, true, but irrelevant in this case.  Music is not "ugly" just because you don't like it, don't understand it, and cannot write anything anywhere near its professionalism.  There are stretches of the Viola Sonata which, indeed, I wrote specifically to the end that they shoud be as beautiful as I might achieve.

This is one difference between Sforz and yourself. Sforz is fair-minded.  You think that you get to pronounce to the world what art is "ugly."

There's a phrase you used earlier, which you in fact misused, because to all appearances you used it as code for your narrow-minded scorn.  I use it here in its true capacity: I pity you.

[greg]

This utterly hilarious series of posts seems to have gone unnoticed (hilarious beause of Saul's final stunning riposte, that is)

I actually had to reread that. Wow. 

[greg]

This is a good thought. Now would be a great time to take your own advice because if you keep going down this road the label "miserable Internet stalker' will somehow seem appropriate. I know there are lots of things that you're interested in, let's pursue some of them, shall we?

Thanks,
GB

Interesting label. MI should just give up, because he is starting to appear that way. Intentions are good, but it's all in vain because Saul will never become more self-critical.

[knight66]

I am just not with this at all. If, as various of you suggest, Saul is unteachable....why do you put the continued effort into picking over his compositions?

Surely there are other threads where your posts will provide legitimate pleasure to others.

Most of us don't see much of the world in the way Saul perceives it; equally, he is not amenable to altering his own stances and most posts here are futile in their ostensible purpose.

If the real idea here is to poke sticks through the bars, well, it is not a worthy objective.

Knight

[bhodges]

I am just not with this at all. If, as various of you suggest, Saul is unteachable....why do you put the continued effort into picking over his compositions?

Word.

--Bruce

[Philoctetes]

Man, maybe there is a conspiracy?! 

[Mirror Image]

MI should just give up

I have.