Missing Members

[Dave B]

Is it likely that some enjoy Internet fighting, either for its own sake or because of the illusion of power and control it can bring?

[Spotted Horses]

I spoke with Maestro on another forum I'm a member of and he said he may return, but he'll tread more carefully if decides to rejoin.

He did mention something that was interesting to me, he said there's a poison in the air here and basically said that people here act all nice to you in the classical music threads, but in the political threads (and elsewhere), they tear your head off. He doesn't like the two-face nature of the membership here and it's difficult not to agree with him in this regard.

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MI (or whatever he calls himself now) was member here for 10 years, deleted his account for a year or so, then started a cycle of returning and quitting. Every return has come with a denigration of the forum - it is dying, it is not what it used to be, the members are all passive-aggressive assholes, the discussions were so much more interesting in the old days. Then lists of members who quit years ago who respected him, demands that members apologize to him, recounting of grievances and grudges he can't let go of. When a member quits here he finds them on another forum and tries to get them to trash talk our forum, reporting it here as hearsay.

I don't know why he wants to keep returning here, except to try to poison the atmosphere. And I don't know why he is allowed to return here.

[Karl Henning]

MI (or whatever he calls himself now) was member here for 10 years, deleted his account for a year or so, then started a cycle of returning and quitting. Every return has come with a denigration of the forum - it is dying, it is not what it used to be, the members are all passive-aggressive assholes, the discussions were so much more interesting in the old days. Then lists of members who quit years ago who respected him, demands that members apologize to him, recounting of grievances and grudges he can't let go of. When a member quits here he finds them on another forum and tries to get them to trash talk our forum, reporting it here as hearsay.

I don't know why he wants to keep returning here, except to try to poison the atmosphere. And I don't know why he is allowed to return here.

He's the kind of guy who pees in the pool and then complains that the water's dirty.

[prémont]

This brings to mind a very old post I came across at TC.
                            

The author, who was well-known at GMG, will be remembered by many. Fortunately, his kind is a rare species.

Quote Saul:
GMG is controlled by a vicious gang of idiots, they call themselves Moderators, and they are even worse then the lunatic thugs and nobodies who participate in that failed site.

First and not least, Karl Henning, the failed terrible noncomposer punk, who has caused many good members to leave GMG because of his vicious 'attack-dog' tactics, and Mirror Image the idiotic failed nobody who was even banned here. These two punks are the major idiots of GMG, and there are many others.

Yesterday, I went along and willfully deleted my account on GMG, and sent the crazy moderators a letter blaming them for failing to sort out the good guys from the bad, and giving a platform to failed attack dogs to do their attacks and barking unhindered.

GMG is a failed music site, I strongly recommend to anyone not to waste their precious time there, you will not get any support from ANYONE, AND YOU'LL BE TREATED MISERABLY.

Regards,

Saul

[Karl Henning]

It's not every day I'm called a punk. That made me smile. 

[prémont]

It's not every day I'm called a punk. That made me smile.

I found Saul's post extremely crazy and could not stop laughing.

[Madiel]

I'm not notorious enough. Must try harder.

[Karl Henning]

I found Saul's post extremely crazy and could not stop laughing.

Oh, indeed. "a vicious gang of idiots." Well, he needed to blow off some serious steam.

[Dave B]

"Attack Dog Henning". lol.

[Karl Henning]

"Attack Dog Henning". lol.

It's quite seldom I bare my fangs, really.

[Kalevala]

A suggestion:  stop talking negatively about relatively current and former members here; it's not attractive/kind/conducive to encouraging people to join the forum.  It just comes across as nasty (in my opinion)...just let it go.  Be nice.  Life is so frigging short.

K

[Karl Henning]

A suggestion:  stop talking negatively about relatively current and former members here; it's not attractive/kind/conducive to encouraging people to join the forum.  It just comes across as nasty (in my opinion)...just let it go.  Be nice.  Life is so frigging short.

K

Excellent suggestion, and from a characteristically kind place.

[DavidW]

It's not every day I'm called a punk. That made me smile.

Oh, it is better than that, I've seen the thread and others on TC! So many banned trolls from the forum blame you. You are truly the troll hunter.

[Der einsame Einsiedler]

A suggestion:  stop talking negatively about relatively current and former members here; it's not attractive/kind/conducive to encouraging people to join the forum.  It just comes across as nasty (in my opinion)...just let it go.  Be nice.  Life is so frigging short.

K

Thanks. You're right...life's too short for this kind of nonsense and finger-pointing. I do want to say reading some of the posts here has been rather discouraging and I'm now wondering if I made the right decision in returning.

[Der einsame Einsiedler]

I'm sorry but this has got nothing to to do with his leaving.

First, political threads have been inactive for months (years in some cases).

Second, when they were fully active and extremely toxic he didn't leave.

Last but not least, he left because of a row he had with another member in exactly a classical music thread and related strictly to music.

The notion that classical music threads are all peace and concord whereas the political ones are all bitterness and dissension is false. The former can at times be as divisive as the latter. Former mod Mike once told me that the worst flame war ever to have taken place, featuring unbelievably gross insults and ad hominem, started in a thread about Haydn's SQs.

Point taken.

[AnotherSpin]

This brings to mind a very old post I came across at TC.
                            

The author, who was well-known at GMG, will be remembered by many. Fortunately, his kind is a rare species.

Quote Saul:
GMG is controlled by a vicious gang of idiots, they call themselves Moderators, and they are even worse then the lunatic thugs and nobodies who participate in that failed site.

First and not least, Karl Henning, the failed terrible noncomposer punk, who has caused many good members to leave GMG because of his vicious 'attack-dog' tactics, and Mirror Image the idiotic failed nobody who was even banned here. These two punks are the major idiots of GMG, and there are many others.

Yesterday, I went along and willfully deleted my account on GMG, and sent the crazy moderators a letter blaming them for failing to sort out the good guys from the bad, and giving a platform to failed attack dogs to do their attacks and barking unhindered.

GMG is a failed music site, I strongly recommend to anyone not to waste their precious time there, you will not get any support from ANYONE, AND YOU'LL BE TREATED MISERABLY.

Regards,

Saul

If you strip away the harsh metaphors, there's a grain of truth here. Just the other day, I was hit with an unprovoked personal attack in the Pettersson thread, followed by another participant indulging in frivolous jabs at my expense in the same discussion. Again, without any specific reason. And the moderators? Dead silent. Luckily, I've got a teflon shell, and this puppy yapping doesn't even register. But I can see how participants with thinner skin might feel cornered and deeply uncomfortable in such an environment.