Five exceptionally fine first symphonies

Started by Christo, July 21, 2017, 12:31:45 AM

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vandermolen

Quote from: Maestro267 on July 22, 2017, 12:26:28 PM
Nice to see so much love for the Gothic here. I shall include it in my list too.

Brian
Vaughan Williams
Alwyn
Schnittke
Walton

As all the others are works that I greatly admire I clearly need to listen to the one by Schnittke. In recent years I've come to appreciate 'A Sea Symphony', especially in Haitink's recording. For a long time the work was a blind spot for me.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Christo

Quote from: vandermolen on July 21, 2017, 02:30:02 PM
Bloch Symphony in C ( think it's his first one)
Your endless plea for the great Bloch in C made me buy all the Bloch symphonies over the years - there are more than a handful - always looking for the one in the right key.  :D
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

vandermolen

Quote from: Christo on July 23, 2017, 02:31:59 AM
Your endless plea for the great Bloch in C made me buy all the Bloch symphonies over the years - there are more than a handful - always looking for the one in the right key.  :D
It has a wonderfully doom-laden yet paradoxically redemptive ending - reminding me of Maximilian Steinberg's No.2 which I'm sure influenced the young Shostakovich in its use of the orchestral piano.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

SymphonicAddict

I can't leave out the magnificent A Hebridean Symphony by Bantock. Extremely poetic and evocative.

vandermolen

Quote from: SymphonicAddict on July 24, 2017, 05:17:59 PM
I can't leave out the magnificent A Hebridean Symphony by Bantock. Extremely poetic and evocative.
+1
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

kyjo

I think most of us can agree that the first symphonies of Brahms, Beethoven, Mahler, Elgar, Sibelius, Walton, Barber, and Nielsen are highly accomplished. I'll add five lesser-known examples:

Martinu
Atterberg
Berwald
Bernstein (well-represented on record but hardly ever played in the concert hall)
Casella

Honorable mentions: Roussel, Tippett, Scriabin, Kalinnikov, Rorem, Gordon Jacob
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Sergeant Rock

My five favorite Firsts:

Havergal Brian
Mahler
Elgar
Schmidt
Sibelius
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Jo498 on July 21, 2017, 01:23:06 PM
I have some quibbles about the Brahms 1st but even so it still beats all others 1sts I know.

Aye, except for the Berlioz.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Brian on July 21, 2017, 08:49:12 AM
Schumann (if Berlioz is cheating)

Berlioz never cheated. He was always faithful to his beloved Harriet.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

kishnevi

#29
Brian
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Rachmaninov
Mendelssohn, if the string symphonies don't disqualify his first full orchestra symphony--if they do the slot goes to Berlioz.

I have to confess I could do completely without Beethoven's first two symphonies.

kyjo

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 11, 2017, 06:24:22 PM
Mendelssohn, if the string symphonies don't disqualify his first full orchestra symphony--if they do the slot goes to Berlioz.

I should've included Mendelssohn's First; it's a great, easily overlooked work. It's a similar situation with Enescu's fine First Symphony - there are in fact four "Study Symphonies" that preceded it.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

kyjo

How stupid of me to forget one of my all-time favorite Firsts - Rachmaninoff's! I'm a big fan of Tchaikovsky's as well.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Florestan

Quote from: kyjo on September 11, 2017, 06:40:02 PM
I should've included Mendelssohn's First; it's a great, easily overlooked work. It's a similar situation with Enescu's fine First Symphony

+ 1.
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

vandermolen

Quote from: kyjo on September 11, 2017, 06:43:13 PM
How stupid of me to forget one of my all-time favorite Firsts - Rachmaninoff's! I'm a big fan of Tchaikovsky's as well.
A great score! That magnificent 'toppling into the abyss' conclusion is one of my all time favourites.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Ken B

Somebody ought to at least mention Kalinnikov and Franck and Bizet

Karl Henning

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 11, 2017, 06:24:22 PM
I have to confess I could do completely without Beethoven's first two symphonies.

+ 1
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Ken B on September 12, 2017, 06:26:11 AM
Somebody ought to at least mention Kalinnikov and Franck and Bizet

Well, and then someone might say Henning.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Wanderer

Brahms
Elgar
Langgaard
Vaughan Williams
and, last but not least, Korngold's Sinfonietta, written when he was 16. The diminutive title refers to the sunny character of the work, not its size, orchestration, length or ambitions. Listen and be awed.

Jo498

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 11, 2017, 06:24:22 PM
Brian
Shostakovich
Prokofiev
Rachmaninov
Mendelssohn, if the string symphonies don't disqualify his first full orchestra symphony--if they do the slot goes to Berlioz.

I have to confess I could do completely without Beethoven's first two symphonies.
I probably prefer the larghetto from Beethoven's second symphony to most works mentioned in this thread, but it is not a first symphony by any stretch.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

kyjo

Quote from: Ken B on September 12, 2017, 06:26:11 AM
Somebody ought to at least mention Kalinnikov and Franck and Bizet

I mentioned Kalinnikov - an exceptional work. While we're on the topic of Russians, Balakirev and Borodin also wrote some really fine first symphonies.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff