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Stürmisch Bewegt

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Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on July 13, 2021, 09:51:49 AM
Thank you for the updates Que.
I'm still concerned about vaccination rates in the US.  For example, there was recent news story talking about how Missouri and Arkansas had quite lower numbers of vaccination rates than in other states.   :(

I'm not concerned at all.  Just one of the things that Trump and Trumpers have robbed me of is my humanity:  if the Delta variant takes more Republiguns off the voter rolls so much the better. 
Leben heißt nicht zu warten, bis der Sturm vorbeizieht, sondern lernen, im Regen zu tanzen.

Harry

Quote from: Stürmisch Bewegt on July 14, 2021, 04:54:13 AM
I'm not concerned at all.  Just one of the things that Trump and Trumpers have robbed me of is my humanity: if the Delta variant takes more Republiguns off the voter rolls so much the better.

Well said
All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.

Stürmisch Bewegt

Quote from: "Harry" on July 14, 2021, 04:57:51 AM
Well said

Well, I'm embarrassed to have said it, must be I have a little humanity left...
Leben heißt nicht zu warten, bis der Sturm vorbeizieht, sondern lernen, im Regen zu tanzen.

Stürmisch Bewegt

This, my friends, is the USA today:  "Tennessee's top immunization official suggested some teenagers might be eligible for vaccinations without parental consent. Then she lost her job." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/13/us/michelle-fiscus-tennessee-vaccine.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210714&instance_id=35258&nl=the-morning&regi_id=79376509&segment_id=63381&te=1&user_id=f68579435a3785b48905035b454f0c5c
Leben heißt nicht zu warten, bis der Sturm vorbeizieht, sondern lernen, im Regen zu tanzen.

Harry

Quote from: Stürmisch Bewegt on July 14, 2021, 05:17:17 AM
This, my friends, is the USA today:  "Tennessee's top immunization official suggested some teenagers might be eligible for vaccinations without parental consent. Then she lost her job." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/13/us/michelle-fiscus-tennessee-vaccine.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210714&instance_id=35258&nl=the-morning&regi_id=79376509&segment_id=63381&te=1&user_id=f68579435a3785b48905035b454f0c5c

Unfortunately I cannot read it without subscribing, but what I read is a very serious issue, one that would never occur in my country. Where is the freedom of opinion, well you may have it but it carries consequences. America land of restricted freedom, especially in the South.
All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.

Stürmisch Bewegt

Quote from: "Harry" on July 14, 2021, 05:23:09 AM
Unfortunately I cannot read it without subscribing, but what I read is a very serious issue, one that would never occur in my country. Where is the freedom of opinion, well you may have it but it carries consequences. America land of restricted freedom, especially in the South.

This covers it : https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/13/1015742588/tennessees-ousted-vaccination-chief-blasts-politics-over-teen-vaccines
Leben heißt nicht zu warten, bis der Sturm vorbeizieht, sondern lernen, im Regen zu tanzen.

Stürmisch Bewegt

Leben heißt nicht zu warten, bis der Sturm vorbeizieht, sondern lernen, im Regen zu tanzen.

André

Quote from: Stürmisch Bewegt on July 14, 2021, 06:01:11 AM
Funny and fun NPR headline:  "The French Rush For Vaccines After They're Told They'll Need Them To Go To Cafes" https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/13/1015591406/french-people-rush-for-vaccines-after-macron-ties-a-new-health-pass-to-cafe-life

From « I can't be bothered » to « I need this ! «  in a jiffy  :D

Pohjolas Daughter

Thank you for those two links S.B.

I feel for that vaccination chief who was fired.   :(

PD

Mandryka

Just some preliminary ideas about some of the things happening in the UK  -- especially the way the Government has used mask fetishism as a diversionary tactic, and the way the opposition has engaged with the debate about lifting restrictions.

In the epidemic, the least well off have suffered the most and the most well off have suffered the least. COVID has exposed the social injustices of capitalism starkly to view. It seemed possible that, at last, there would be a movement for fairness.

However this has not happened. No political or popular force is seeking radical change. Capitalism has responded to the crisis skilfully and has, as far as I can see, succeeded in preserving itself.

I conclude that the epidemic is in fact a minor event, not a revolutionary event. Everything will soon go back to being more or less as it was before.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

steve ridgway

Quote from: Mandryka on July 14, 2021, 07:13:40 AM
Everything will soon go back to being more or less as it was before.

Including the worsening climate change, but people will be too busy bickering about masks to bother much about that. :(

Waterstones says it will encourage its customers to continue wearing face coverings in its stores after they cease to be compulsory after 19 July... Managing director James Daunt told the BBC this would be communicated by signs, but staff would not enforce this: "If you are wearing a mask and you don't want to be in the company with someone who isn't wearing a mask, we expect people will use their common sense and move away."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57832560

Holden

Quote from: Stürmisch Bewegt on July 14, 2021, 04:54:13 AM
I'm not concerned at all.  Just one of the things that Trump and Trumpers have robbed me of is my humanity:  if the Delta variant takes more Republiguns off the voter rolls so much the better.

Wanting people dead because of their political views - where have I heard that before?
Cheers

Holden

Karl Henning

Quote from: Stürmisch Bewegt on July 14, 2021, 05:17:17 AM
This, my friends, is the USA today:  "Tennessee's top immunization official suggested some teenagers might be eligible for vaccinations without parental consent. Then she lost her job." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/13/us/michelle-fiscus-tennessee-vaccine.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210714&instance_id=35258&nl=the-morning&regi_id=79376509&segment_id=63381&te=1&user_id=f68579435a3785b48905035b454f0c5c

On a personal note, I know a young lady in TN who would like to get the vaccine, but her MAGA-zoid parents refuse to consent.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Stürmisch Bewegt

Quote from: Holden on July 14, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
Wanting people dead because of their political views - where have I heard that before?

There is a difference between "wanting people dead" and seeing some poetic justice in their deaths as a result of their own flagrant stupidity (and, I might add, astonishing selfishness in permitting Covid to continue to infect and evolve).
Leben heißt nicht zu warten, bis der Sturm vorbeizieht, sondern lernen, im Regen zu tanzen.

Stürmisch Bewegt

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 14, 2021, 12:59:01 PM
On a personal note, I know a young lady in TN who would like to get the vaccine, but her MAGA-zoid parents refuse to consent.

Horace, Odes: "For the sins of your fathers you, though guiltless, must suffer."
Leben heißt nicht zu warten, bis der Sturm vorbeizieht, sondern lernen, im Regen zu tanzen.

Karl Henning

Mass. coronavirus cases are ticking up again. Should you worry? Here's what experts are saying.

Will it be different this time around? Coronavirus case counts and other key metrics are ticking up again in Massachusetts, a distressing development in a state that has already endured massive disruption, illness, and loss of life from the pandemic.

The seven-day average of confirmed coronavirus cases climbed to 141 on Wednesday, up from a low point of 52 it had reached on June 28, according to Department of Public Health data. The seven-day average rate of positive tests has also been edging upward.

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Stürmisch Bewegt

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 14, 2021, 04:00:38 PM
Mass. coronavirus cases are ticking up again. Should you worry? Here's what experts are saying.

Will it be different this time around? Coronavirus case counts and other key metrics are ticking up again in Massachusetts, a distressing development in a state that has already endured massive disruption, illness, and loss of life from the pandemic.

The seven-day average of confirmed coronavirus cases climbed to 141 on Wednesday, up from a low point of 52 it had reached on June 28, according to Department of Public Health data. The seven-day average rate of positive tests has also been edging upward.

Human foolishness virtually assures that it will be bad, likely and unfortunately surpassingly bad.  Here in Missouri (Misery) the cases are proliferating now widely across the state - the Feds have sent a Task Force to our hotspot in Southwest Missouri (where ICUs are filled to overflowing), though why they were sent is perhaps open to question - the victims are the same people who resent 'government interference' in all things.  They're also the same people who socio-pathologically worship weaponry of all kinds - unfortunately they can't shoot the Coronavirus. 
Leben heißt nicht zu warten, bis der Sturm vorbeizieht, sondern lernen, im Regen zu tanzen.

T. D.

Quote from: Stürmisch Bewegt on July 14, 2021, 04:13:15 PM
Human foolishness virtually assures that it will be bad, likely and unfortunately surpassingly bad.  Here in Missouri (Misery) the cases are proliferating now widely across the state - the Feds have sent a Task Force to our hotspot in Southwest Missouri (where ICUs are filled to overflowing), though why they were sent is perhaps open to question - the victims are the same people who resent 'government interference' in all things.  They're also the same people who socio-pathologically worship weaponry of all kinds - unfortunately they can't shoot the Coronavirus.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-10/delta-variant-spills-out-of-midwest-tourist-hub-turned-incubator [Branson, MO]

Stürmisch Bewegt

Thank you, T.D. for posting that, did not know Branson was the 'center of attraction' for the Delta, but certainly makes sense.  (I've been in MO for over twenty years and never went, country not being my thing, though I certainly enjoyed two visits to the Country Music Hall of Fame in Nashville). 

I believe Republiguns should be held legally liable for the misinformation they spout about the pandemic.  Anyway, after some forays to several record and CD shops, I think I will start to lay low once again.  I'm more fortunate than many; I'm retired and my wife is still able allowed to work from home, fortunately, except for Fridays when she has to go into the office for various reasons...I suspect that is about to change.  Batten down the hatches; Covid - apparently - is smarter than we are. 
Leben heißt nicht zu warten, bis der Sturm vorbeizieht, sondern lernen, im Regen zu tanzen.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Stürmisch Bewegt on July 14, 2021, 05:39:15 PM
Thank you, T.D. for posting that, did not know Branson was the 'center of attraction' for the Delta, but certainly makes sense.  (I've been in MO for over twenty years and never went, country not being my thing, though I certainly enjoyed two visits to the Country Music Hall of Fame in Nashville). 

I believe Republiguns should be held legally liable for the misinformation they spout about the pandemic.  Anyway, after some forays to several record and CD shops, I think I will start to lay low once again.  I'm more fortunate than many; I'm retired and my wife is still able allowed to work from home, fortunately, except for Fridays when she has to go into the office for various reasons...I suspect that is about to change.  Batten down the hatches; Covid - apparently - is smarter than we are. 

Humans grow tired and lazy. The virus doesn't.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot