Coronavirus thread

[Mandryka]

. We should brace ourselves for the next variant in the fall.

Why do you say « in the fall »?  I mean, why not in Summer?

As far as I know, no one can say how likely it is that a variant which can replace omicron will be at least as benign as omicron. But I dont follow the latest developments. 

[Que]

Why do you say « in the fall »?  I mean, why not in Summer?

Depends on whether you accept the theory that Corona is seasonal. There is some research to support it, but there is still debate amongst scientists. So yes, perhaps even sooner...

[prémont]

Omicron variant does cause different symptoms from Delta, study finds

For me personally this is rather old news, since I have experienced an Omicron infection myself three weeks ago. After the Dutch govt lifted all restrictions it was almost inevitable. Despite being fully vaccinated, an unpleasant experience and definitely not "just a flu". I'm still experiencing some lingering after effects, though progress is steady.

I'm glad to hear, that you are recovering. Wish you a speedy and full recovery.

[Florestan]

I have experienced an Omicron infection myself three weeks ago. After the Dutch govt lifted all restrictions it was almost inevitable. Despite being fully vaccinated, an unpleasant experience and definitely not "just a flu". I'm still experiencing some lingering after effects, though progress is steady.

I'm sorry to hear that and wish you a full and speedy recovery.

Your experience contrasts strongly with my own: I had omicron mid-February and the symptoms were exactly those of a good ol' flu: running nose, watery eyes, cough and moderate fever. All gone after 10 days or so with treatment as for just a flu.

FWIW, that was actually the second time I had Covid-19, the first time being in February 2021 when I had much milder symptoms. I am almost 50, apparently healthy and am not vaccinated at all.

I guess the adage is true, that there are no diseases, only diseased people.

[Madiel]

I don't even know what the hell that adage is supposed to MEAN.

[Florestan]

I don't even know what the hell that adage is supposed to MEAN.

I might have translated it badly, sorry, English is not my native tongue. In Romanian it's very straightfoward: "nu există boli, ci bolnavi" (word for word translation "there are no diseases/illnesses, only diseased/ill people"). The idea is that one and the same disease can have different symptoms and outcomes, varying from people to people --- this is the best I can express it, hope you get it.

[Madiel]

I might have translated it badly, sorry, English is not my native tongue. In Romanian it's very straightfoward: "nu există boli, ci bolnavi" (word for word translation "there are no diseases/illnesses, only diseased/ill people"). The idea is that one and the same disease can have different symptoms and outcomes, varying from people to people --- this is the best I can express it, hope you get it.

The idea is correct, but that is a very strange and arguably incorrect way of expressing the idea.

I mean, would anyone say that there are no guns or bullets because the outcomes of being shot can vary a lot?

It's literally confusing cause and effect, and claiming that because effects vary, there are no causes.

[Florestan]

The idea is correct, but that is a very strange and arguably incorrect way of expressing the idea.

I mean, would anyone say that there are no guns or bullets because the outcomes of being shot can vary a lot?

It's literally confusing cause and effect, and claiming that because effects vary, there are no causes.

Well, never mind anymore, then. Obviously Romanian is a much more figurative language than English, because no Romanian would ever infer from "nu există boli, ci bolnavi" that literally there are no diseases.

What I wanted to say is that both Que and I had omicron-variant-Covid-19 yet we experienced it differently, quite possibly because we are different persons with different medical records.

Honestly, there's no need to furtherly pursue the matter. At least I'm not going to.

[Karl Henning]

So why was the Gridiron event more likely to have been a superspreader event than the State of the Union?

[vandermolen]

So, now I have Covid (for the first time).
I had cold symptoms (sneezing/sore throat) for a few days. I twice did a LFT which were negative. However I'm also a volunteer on the government's (Office for National Statistics) survey which means that I get tested with a more robust test (throat/nostril swab + DIY blood test) every few weeks. I came home yesterday having been out for a long walk with my wife to find an email saying that my test of a few days ago was positive for Covid - so, there we are  .
I'm blocked up with a sore throat but, so far, the symptoms are those of a bad cold.

[71 dB]

So, now I have Covid (for the first time).
I had cold symptoms (sneezing/sore throat) for a few days. I twice did a LFT which were negative. However I'm also a volunteer on the government's (Office for National Statistics) survey which means that I get tested with a more robust test (throat/nostril swab + DIY blood test) every few weeks. I came home yesterday having been out for a long walk with my wife to find an email saying that my test of a few days ago was positive for Covid - so, there we are  .
I'm blocked up with a sore throat but, so far, the symptoms are those of a bad cold.

Sorry about that, but they say everyone if going to have it sooner or later. Hang on there Jeffrey.  0:)

[vandermolen]

Sorry about that, but they say everyone if going to have it sooner or later. Hang on there Jeffrey.  0:)

Thank you very much 
Feel a bit tired and blocked up - but this is a good excuse to stay at home and listen to CDs!
I've been sneezing a lot and was interested to read that sneezing is a common symptom for those who have been fully-vaccinated and then test positive. It is a much less common symptom in the unvaccinated apparently. I was sneezing so much that it was hurting my ribs but the sneezing has largely stopped now.

[MusicTurner]

That must have been a nuisance - wishing you a quick recovery.

[Florestan]

So, now I have Covid (for the first time).
I had cold symptoms (sneezing/sore throat) for a few days. I twice did a LFT which were negative. However I'm also a volunteer on the government's (Office for National Statistics) survey which means that I get tested with a more robust test (throat/nostril swab + DIY blood test) every few weeks. I came home yesterday having been out for a long walk with my wife to find an email saying that my test of a few days ago was positive for Covid - so, there we are  .
I'm blocked up with a sore throat but, so far, the symptoms are those of a bad cold.

I wish you a speedy and full recovery, Jeffrey. FWIW, I had Covid for the second time in mid-February and experienced exactly the same symptoms.

[prémont]

That must have been a nuisance - wishing you a quick recovery.

+1

[vandermolen]

Thanks for the good wishes guys! 
I've missed out on the family get-together today but I did not wish to risk infecting my 92 and 88 year old in-laws, not to mention everyone else. My wife tested negative so she has gone. Therefore I have to martyr myself by staying in, communicating with my 'cat group', listening to my CDs, reading the newspaper and playing with the cat. 

[vandermolen]

I wish you a speedy and full recovery, Jeffrey. FWIW, I had Covid for the second time in mid-February and experienced exactly the same symptoms.

Interesting Andrei - thanks. The sneezing issue hadn't occurred to me before.

[steve ridgway]

Glad to hear it's not too serious Jeffrey.

[Mandryka]

Thanks for the good wishes guys! 
I've missed out on the family get-together today but I did not wish to risk infecting my 92 and 88 year old in-laws, not to mention everyone else. My wife tested negative so she has gone. Therefore I have to martyr myself by staying in, communicating with my 'cat group', listening to my CDs, reading the newspaper and playing with the cat. 

A bottle of wine and a pile of smoked salmon sandwiches always does the trick for me.

[vandermolen]

Glad to hear it's not too serious Jeffrey.

Thanks Steve :-)