Coronavirus thread

[MusicTurner]

It certainly helped me mend in a timely fashion.

That's good to hear, and I did not know it was already in circulation in the US.

[Karl Henning]

That's good to hear, and I did not know it was already in circulation in the US.

My doctor prescribed it for me when my onset of symptoms was still quite new.

[MusicTurner]

My doctor prescribed it for me when my onset of symptoms was still quite new.

Excellent service - under the circumstances, of course.

[Karl Henning]

Excellent service - under the circumstances, of course.

All in all, I am pleased with the care.

[krummholz]

My doctor prescribed it for me when my onset of symptoms was still quite new.

Very glad to hear that it was available for you. Yes, it's been rolled out for at least a couple of months now in the U.S., but it isn't equally available everywhere. And there are serious drug interactions that mean that some people cannot take it and must rely on something else, a different antiviral, or a monoclonal antibody - of which there is only one available that is at all effective against Omicron and subvariants... as the director of our health department recently said, Paxlovid is by far the treatment of first choice if it's not contraindicated for some reason.

[Karl Henning]

Very glad to hear that it was available for you. Yes, it's been rolled out for at least a couple of months now in the U.S., but it isn't equally available everywhere. And there are serious drug interactions that mean that some people cannot take it and must rely on something else, a different antiviral, or a monoclonal antibody - of which there is only one available that is at all effective against Omicron and subvariants... as the director of our health department recently said, Paxlovid is by far the treatment of first choice if it's not contraindicated for some reason.

I had to discontinue my statin for a couple of weeks, while the Paxlovid was in my system.

[greg]

Finally got a Positive score on my Covid test after four tries! 

I see what I was doing wrong the whole time. I was staying home, avoiding everyone for two years. But no! Don't do that, stupid! You'll never pass the test that way!

My employer tells me to go back to work. They have a big celebration for their 100th birthday, and the office is extremely crowded, and you have to get past 50 people blocking the hallway, maskless, in order to get to your desk. I think that is most likely what helped. I get it now, you have to be around people!

Wow, I'm so dumb and reckless, people in power should definitely make decisions for me because I don't know what I'm doing. Two years of failing the test, how pathetic! Obviously I cannot figure this out on my own.


(although idk what the intention was with the mandatory vaccines for employees was that I ended up getting... I was trying to test positive, but vaccines are trying to make you test negative? Why did they try to make it harder?  Oh well... they didn't really help, so doesn't really matter I guess)

[SimonNZ]

If you're healthy enough to be up and on the internet posting dull witted sarcasm while positive with covid  then the vaccine may helping far more than you seem able to see.

[Madiel]

Vaccines are not especially trying to make you test negative. The primary goal of developing a vaccine so rapidly was to keep you alive.

So far it's working.

[greg]

During delta times, I think that was more likely the case that it's very effective at keeping you out of the hospital.
But nowadays, not quite the same... no way to compare me specifically, exactly unless you split reality in two and fork the two scenarios of getting the vaccine vs. not getting it.
When my mom got it (few months ago, not vaccinated) it wasn't worse than mine. So at this point I'm not sure how much it's needed.
Was only healthy enough after a few days. First few days, couldn't even drive to the store to pick up food or submit the covid test.

[Madiel]

Right. So you're making witticisms about a vaccine that was developed and most likely given to you before omicron existed, on the basis that you think it wasn't needed for omicron.

No doubt you're one of these people who thinks fixing the Y2K bug was a waste of effort because everything was fine afterwards.

[Karl Henning]

Deep breaths, greg!

[SimonNZ]

no way to compare me specifically, exactly unless you split reality in two and fork the two scenarios of getting the vaccine vs. not getting it.

We already have that information in analysis of death rates in the vaccinated vs unvaccinated, and in much other data elsewhere:



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-compare-covid-deaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/

[greg]

That's not what I'm talking about, I said me (one person) specifically. Not people in general.
It's probably just a case of the virus changing a bit after what I got was intended for, as Madiel is implying.

[Madiel]

I'm not implying it, I'm downright saying it. It's basic common knowledge of anyone who bothers to follow the news, or frankly anyone who understands how time works.

Plus the vaccine was NEVER a guarantee that you wouldn't get infected, and was never intended to be.

[steve ridgway]

Plus the vaccine was NEVER a guarantee that you wouldn't get infected, and was never intended to be.

Yeah, the WHO had to change the definition of "vaccine" when that became apparent.

[Madiel]

Yeah, the WHO had to change the definition of "vaccine" when that became apparent.

Or maybe everyone had to catch up on decades of scientific reality instead of relying on a pop culture definition of vaccine that has been wrong.

Seriously. No vaccine is 100% preventative. None. The fact that you didn't notice this for any other disease doesn't mean it wasn't true.

We deal with the fact that it isn't 100% in part by the concept of herd immunity. A concept that people have been roundly misunderstanding or ignoring and refusing to take part in.

[DizzyD]

I got Covid a couple of weeks ago. I've never been vaccinated or boosted. My experience with it is it's much like the flu. After 3 days everything was back to normal.

[Madiel]

I got Covid a couple of weeks ago. I've never been vaccinated or boosted. My experience with it is it's much like the flu. After 3 days everything was back to normal.

You do understand that the flu has a chance of killing you?

[DizzyD]

You do understand that the flu has a chance of killing you?

Yeah, I do. I did get a flu shot last October. There are quite a few things that have a chance of killing me.