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[Herman]

So, your professional musician theory probably is more likely. That said, I've dealt with many of them, too, with no problem. So maybe he was just uniquely M? 😳

🤠😎

Well, I believe he wasn't a very successful musician, as far as I know, always playing temp jobs on the fly. And I think he was doing equipment or studio jobs at the time of his posting here, in 'Merica, of all places!. So maybe there was a little bit of unhappiness there.

I'm also fairly sure these music groups attract a fairly reliable number of cranks and not entirely well-adapted members of society, frankly I'm ready to count myself in either of those groups (but not both at the same time, please!), who need to act out a form of superiority here they're lacking IRL.

[Mirror Image]

It seems by the sound of it that even I could be considered one of the GMG trolls. We all have our eccentricities of course, but also, there are some people who are just plain...bizarre.

[DaveF]

Although if anyone is feeling nostalgic, I bet you could locate Sean on a sex offender registry somewhere

I remember that one (of many) of Sean's peculiarities was that he held it to be literally, physically impossible for modern listeners to understand music written pre-1700 because it was "modal" rather than "tonal".  Apparently back then they had an extra awareness, rather like beings that inhabit 4-dimensional space, of the differences between the Mixolydian, Dorian, Phrygian etc. which we have completely lost.  For us to listen to early music was therefore rather like a blind person visiting a picture gallery.  I once forced John Browne's Stabat mater upon him, which he gave his usual thorough attention (he listened to everything 5 times before expressing an opinion) before grudgingly conceding that it exhibited "proto-tonal tendencies".

[Spotted Horses]

Agreed. He came to work in Boston at one point, and we got together for a cup of tea near my office.

I seem to remember that he subsequently made some cutting remarks regarding your success as a composer, which seemed particularly offensive because of your prior hospitality. Of course, memory is often inaccurate and is impossible to confirm. Conversations are extremely difficult to reconstruct from these discussion board, which don't allow you to access see things as they unfolded chronologically across threads, and because offensive posts are often deleted.

[Daverz]

Agreed. He came to work in Boston at one point, and we got together for a cup of tea near my office.

Michael and I actually lived in the same town in California when he was out here.  He also came to the West Coast Brucknerthon at least once.  I think he may have been a bit hurt that I never hung out with him, though that had more to do with my living situation at the time and my being rather anti-social.

[springrite]

It seems by the sound of it that even I could be considered one of the GMG trolls. We all have our eccentricities of course, but also, there are some people who are just plain...bizarre.

But we love your version of bizarreness.

[prémont]

But we love your version of bizarreness.

+1

[Mirror Image]

But we love your version of bizarreness.

+1

Thanks, fellas.

[foxandpeng]

I remember that one (of many) of Sean's peculiarities was that he held it to be literally, physically impossible for modern listeners to understand music written pre-1700 because it was "modal" rather than "tonal".  Apparently back then they had an extra awareness, rather like beings that inhabit 4-dimensional space, of the differences between the Mixolydian, Dorian, Phrygian etc. which we have completely lost.  For us to listen to early music was therefore rather like a blind person visiting a picture gallery.  I once forced John Browne's Stabat mater upon him, which he gave his usual thorough attention (he listened to everything 5 times before expressing an opinion) before grudgingly conceding that it exhibited "proto-tonal tendencies".

This thread was the one that prompted me to re-register again properly, and to say hello after such a long time. I really appreciate the way you all view the forum. I'm also registered on other fora, but I visit here far more frequently than other places. I confess that one of my dim and distant conversations with Sean led me to stop contributing, but I was less resilient then, due to a tough patch. I still probably won't add much, but I do enjoy learning here.

[Cato]

This thread was the one that prompted me to re-register again properly, and to say hello after such a long time. I really appreciate the way you all view the forum. I'm also registered on other fora, but I visit here far more frequently than other places. I confess that one of my dim and distant conversations with Sean led me to stop contributing, but I was less resilient then, due to a tough patch. I still probably won't add much, but I do enjoy learning here.

Ouch!  However, it is very nice that you have returned!!

I remember that one (of many) of Sean's peculiarities was that he held it to be literally, physically impossible for modern listeners to understand music written pre-1700 because it was "modal" rather than "tonal".  Apparently back then they had an extra awareness, rather like beings that inhabit 4-dimensional space, of the differences between the Mixolydian, Dorian, Phrygian etc. which we have completely lost.  For us to listen to early music was therefore rather like a blind person visiting a picture gallery.  I once forced John Browne's Stabat mater upon him, which he gave his usual thorough attention (he listened to everything 5 times before expressing an opinion) before grudgingly conceding that it exhibited "proto-tonal tendencies".

Sean exhibited proto-no-no tendencies, and I don't mean Luigi!   

[Spotted Horses]

This thread was the one that prompted me to re-register again properly, and to say hello after such a long time. I really appreciate the way you all view the forum. I'm also registered on other fora, but I visit here far more frequently than other places. I confess that one of my dim and distant conversations with Sean led me to stop contributing, but I was less resilient then, due to a tough patch. I still probably won't add much, but I do enjoy learning here.

The poster formerly known as Pencils..

Pencils rings a bell.

[Karl Henning]

Returning to the topic at hand, it is thanks to this forum that I was able to meet two righteous dudes (Corey and Nigel), sadly (or not) who are no longer part of this forum, but I am very glad to have met both of them, even if I knew them only for a short time. They also (wittingly or unwittingly) allowed me to understand a part of myself that was either previously unknown to me (or denied by me, but I suspect it is probably more the former than the latter).

Thanks for sharing.

[Iota]

To 71 dB -

Fwiw, I think bloody-minded persistence in the face of widespread opposition can be an admirable virtue at times, though I'm not sure a politics thread on a music forum is necessarily one of those times. But I think you're an honest person without guile, which to me are very valuable qualities, and in certain things you talk with great authority and clarity, hi fi/audio being one example, where there's nobody's opinion I'd respect more.

Returning to the topic at hand, it is thanks to this forum that I was able to meet two righteous dudes (Corey and Nigel), sadly (or not) who are no longer part of this forum, but I am very glad to have met both of them, even if I knew them only for a short time. They also (wittingly or unwittingly) allowed me to understand a part of myself that was either previously unknown to me (or denied by me, but I suspect it is probably more the former than the latter).

That's a heartening story, nice to hear. 

[71 dB]

To 71 dB -

Fwiw, I think bloody-minded persistence in the face of widespread opposition can be an admirable virtue at times, though I'm not sure a politics thread on a music forum is necessarily one of those times. But I think you're an honest person without guile, which to me are very valuable qualities, and in certain things you talk with great authority and clarity, hi fi/audio being one example, where there's nobody's opinion I'd respect more.

These are kind and thoughtful words! Thank you Iota! Much appreciated!  0:)

[Cato]

Just minutes ago I discovered that the family of one of our members will be needing our prayers!

I do not want to reveal who it is, but I am sure that we will all hope that a miracle might be found somehow, somewhere.

[foxandpeng]

Just minutes ago I discovered that the family of one of our members will be needing our prayers!

I do not want to reveal who it is, but I am sure that we will all hope that a miracle might be found somehow, somewhere.

Hoping for news of a positive resolution,  here.

[Spotted Horses]

Just minutes ago I discovered that the family of one of our members will be needing our prayers!

I do not want to reveal who it is, but I am sure that we will all hope that a miracle might be found somehow, somewhere.

You are creating a feeling of hopeless dread.

[Luke]

I think Leo is referring to me, or rather to my wife, who I know he messaged on Facebook a few days ago.

I did mention what is happening (which is so much worse than I can possibly describe) on another thread but I think only a few people saw it.

https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?msg=1589780

Things continue to worsen and the pain, which involves bones breaking frequently, is debilitating.

I'm sorry, I didn't see this thread till now, I don't look on this particular board very often and never even seen this thread before.

[Harry]

I think Leo is referring to me, or rather to my wife, who I know he messaged on Facebook a few days ago.

I did mention what is happening (which is so much worse than I can possibly describe) on another thread but I think only a few people saw it.

https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?msg=1589780

Things continue to worsen and the pain, which involves bones breaking frequently, is debilitating.

I'm sorry, I didn't see this thread till now, I don't look on this particular board very often and never even seen this thread before.

You have my compassion Luke, and also your wife. I pray for her daily and will urge the members of my church to do the same, which they will do with all their heart. I wish you strength and the ability to support your wife as she needs it. I know what you are going through. Its not an easy task. Be what your wife needs!

[Que]

I think Leo is referring to me, or rather to my wife, who I know he messaged on Facebook a few days ago.

I did mention what is happening (which is so much worse than I can possibly describe) on another thread but I think only a few people saw it.

https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?msg=1589780

Things continue to worsen and the pain, which involves bones breaking frequently, is debilitating.

I'm sorry, I didn't see this thread till now, I don't look on this particular board very often and never even seen this thread before.

Luke, it is just absolutely awful what you and your wife are going through.
I hope music and and a little chat here now and then, will offer some sort of mental relief.