Haydn's Haus

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Herman

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Quote from: Florestan on March 02, 2025, 11:20:16 PMGood luck in finding any sexual pleasure whatsoever with a beastly shrew like Haydn's wife.  ;D

And I see nothing wrong in his desire to have children. (There is some speculation that he did have a son with Luigia Polzelli).

Theoretically it's possible Haydn was the one who did not provide the goods in terms of fertility.
Throw in a distinct lack of mutual attraction and the frequency of 'trying' won't soar either.

The weird thing is, Haydn had not wanted to marry Maria. He wanted her younger sister Theresa. However her dad packed her off to a nunnery and insisted Haydn wed the ugly daughter who did not care for music. Granted, Haydn was no Brad Pitt himself, but he did outperform his in-laws vastly in terms of worldly success, meriting the best daughter, if I may...

Mandryka

Quote from: Herman on March 03, 2025, 05:41:34 AMyes I love that one. It's dedicated to Haydn's London honeybunny, Rebecca Schroeter, just like the preceding G major, with the alla Zingarese finale. The next one, nr 41, in the superdark E flat minor key is great, too.

Great dark first movement in the E flat minor one.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

VonStupp

Quote from: André on March 28, 2025, 12:33:57 PMThis is one of the few indispensable Haydn discs to have in your collection. As I recall it, the LPs boasted an airier, slightly more spacious sound, but the CD version sounds very fine.

I love Haydn's Masses, but the Cäcilienmesse is not a favorite of mine, as I find it rather ungainly amongst his Mass settings, nor do I enjoy this particular recording. (I do not intend this as a negation of your ideas, for I rather enjoyed reading your thoughts on this recording).

Take my own view with a grain of salt though, for I don't care for the boy-treble sound in general, which Wilhelm's performance boasts. On the other hand, these two Marriner EMI Gemini CDs of Haydn's Masses are amongst my favorite recordings of those Haydn works as well, so I still visit the Wilhelm performance once in a while.

Too bad Marriner never recorded Haydn's Harmoniemesse...  :(
VS
All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. - Frank Zappa

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LKB

Quote from: VonStupp on March 29, 2025, 06:07:23 AMI love Haydn's Masses, but the Cäcilienmesse is not a favorite of mine, as I find it rather ungainly amongst his Mass settings, nor do I enjoy this particular recording. (I do not intend this as a negation of your ideas, for I rather enjoyed reading your thoughts on this recording).

Take my own view with a grain of salt though, for I don't care for the boy-treble sound in general, which Wilhelm's performance boasts. On the other hand, these two Marriner EMI Gemini CDs of Haydn's Masses are amongst my favorite recordings of those Haydn works as well, so I still visit the Wilhelm performance once in a while.

Too bad Marriner never recorded Haydn's Harmoniemesse...  :(
VS

Actually, he did...

https://www.discogs.com/release/2814490-Haydn-Chor-Des-St-Johns-College-Cambridge-Academy-Of-St-Martin-in-the-Fields-Harmoniemesse
Mit Flügeln, die ich mir errungen...

VonStupp

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Quote from: LKB on March 29, 2025, 06:28:42 AMActually, he did...

https://www.discogs.com/release/2814490-Haydn-Chor-Des-St-Johns-College-Cambridge-Academy-Of-St-Martin-in-the-Fields-Harmoniemesse

I guess specificity is important, as I only listen on CD. As a physical media listener, I too often forget online listening as an option for not having LPs. I will do a little searching to see if it is floating around. Thanks for the reminder to look beyond the CD catalog.
VS
All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff. - Frank Zappa

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Jo498

Marriner was concert master but as conductor George Guest (the chorus master, I guess) is credited, as, I believe, in all of these recordings of the late masses.

Marriner recorded some of the late masses later for EMI with Staatskapelle Dresden but I think they don't include the Harmoniemesse.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

brewski

For lovers of the Haydn quartets, on Sunday, May 4 at 3:00 pm EDT, the Brentano Quartet is performing all six of the Op. 33 quartets in two back-to-back segments, livestreamed free from the Philadelphia Chamber Music Society.

Watch here or on the PCMS YouTube page below.

Part I (3 pm):
Haydn: Quartet in B Minor, Op. 33, No. 1
Haydn: Quartet in E-flat Major, Op. 33, No. 2, The Joke
Haydn: Quartet in C Major, Op. 33, No. 3, The Bird

Intermission

Part II (5 pm):
Haydn: Quartet in B-flat Major, Op. 33, No. 4
Haydn: Quartet in G Major, Op. 33, No. 5
Haydn: Quartet in D Major, Op. 33, No. 6

"I set down a beautiful chord on paper—and suddenly it rusts."
—Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)