Official language(s) of Romania

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Christo

February 20, 2025, 03:22:56 PM Last Edit: February 23, 2025, 06:37:14 AM by ritter
Quote from: Florestan on February 15, 2025, 05:34:17 AMHmmmm...
You know, your great country's second language - you'll have learned in kindergarten!  8)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Florestan

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February 20, 2025, 11:44:27 PM
Quote from: Christo on February 20, 2025, 03:22:56 PMYou know, your great country's second language - you'll have learned in kindergarten!  8)

Ethnic Hungarian kids do study it in kindergarten, primary school, secondary school and high school. However, the only official language of the country is Romanian.

As for myself, I know a few basic Hungarian expressions and words.


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The map is wrong but I'm not going to derail this thread by pointing out its mistakes.
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Christo

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February 21, 2025, 12:04:48 AM Last Edit: February 23, 2025, 04:03:19 AM by Christo
Quote from: Florestan on February 20, 2025, 11:44:27 PMHowever, the only official language of the country is Romanian.
That remains to be seen. At Babeș-Bolyai University in Cluy/Kolozsvár/Klausenburg/Claudiopolis, as you'll know founded by the Hungarian king as the Academia Claudiopolitana Societatis Jesu in 1581, each scientific domain has a faculty and complete study programme in one of three or four languages: Romanian, Hungarian, German, and English. E.g. the Journlism Department where I have been a guest lecturer since 1999. Something similar is the case with other universities in Zevenburgen (Zeumburgn, in Low Saxon).
Don't tell me that the post-colonial forces declare it all illegal.  $:)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Florestan

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February 21, 2025, 12:38:55 AM Last Edit: February 21, 2025, 01:12:32 AM by Florestan
Quote from: Christo on February 21, 2025, 12:04:48 AMThat remains to be seen.

Constitution of Romania, Article 13

Official language

In Romania, the official language is Romanian.

https://www.presidency.ro/en/the-constitution-of-romania

Case closed.


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Christo

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February 23, 2025, 04:05:51 AM Last Edit: February 23, 2025, 04:10:53 AM by Christo
Quote from: Florestan on February 20, 2025, 11:44:27 PMThe map is wrong but I'm not going to derail this thread by pointing out its mistakes.
The map, as both of us know very well, is not wrong - but accentuates differences that are smaller in reality ('on the ground'), as maps often do, for obvious reasons. As I see it awakens your Vlach sentiments, this one will suit them a little better.  :)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Christo

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February 24, 2025, 09:41:41 PM
Dear Andrei, you will have noticed the building shown in the last post. Its pre-WWI 'function' has been replaced in the 1960s (I guess) by a brutalist, but certainly not unattractive, venue shown here:
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

steve ridgway

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February 25, 2025, 07:46:27 PM
Oh, does Romania contain little areas where people speak a different language?

AnotherSpin

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February 25, 2025, 08:32:25 PM
Quote from: steve ridgway on February 25, 2025, 07:46:27 PMOh, does Romania contain little areas where people speak a different language?

Just the other day, I traveled northeast from Bucharest, crossing a vast stretch of Romania on my way home to Odesa. At every stop, I heard only Romanian, and every sign was in Romanian. Perhaps a few still speak Hungarian in Transylvania, but more than likely, Ceaușescu's dictatorship left little room for other tongues.

Christo

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February 25, 2025, 10:46:22 PM
Quote from: AnotherSpin on February 25, 2025, 08:32:25 PMJust the other day, I traveled northeast from Bucharest, crossing a vast stretch of Romania on my way home to Odesa. At every stop, I heard only Romanian, and every sign was in Romanian. Perhaps a few still speak Hungarian in Transylvania, but more than likely, Ceaușescu's dictatorship left little room for other tongues.

... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

DaveF

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February 25, 2025, 10:56:21 PM
Quote from: AnotherSpin on February 25, 2025, 08:32:25 PMJust the other day, I traveled northeast from Bucharest, crossing a vast stretch of Romania on my way home to Odesa. At every stop, I heard only Romanian, and every sign was in Romanian. Perhaps a few still speak Hungarian in Transylvania, but more than likely, Ceaușescu's dictatorship left little room for other tongues.
I travelled right across Romania in 1997 and remember that the western cities (Oradea, Cluj) had bilingual name signs on the roads (Nagyvárad, Kolozsvár), one or other of which had been painted out in national colours (depending on whether Romanian- or Hungarian-speakers had got to them first).  It reminded me of how Wales used to be in the 1960s before Welsh became an official language. 
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Florestan

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February 25, 2025, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: steve ridgway on February 25, 2025, 07:46:27 PMOh, does Romania contain little areas where people speak a different language?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Romania

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AnotherSpin

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February 26, 2025, 12:19:31 AM
Quote from: DaveF on February 25, 2025, 10:56:21 PMI travelled right across Romania in 1997 and remember that the western cities (Oradea, Cluj) had bilingual name signs on the roads (Nagyvárad, Kolozsvár), one or other of which had been painted out in national colours (depending on whether Romanian- or Hungarian-speakers had got to them first).  It reminded me of how Wales used to be in the 1960s before Welsh became an official language. 

In the early 90s, I saw road signs or street names in Hungarian near the border with Hungary in Ukraine.
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