Coronavirus thread

[MusicTurner]

Btw, it's been noted that countries with female leaders generally tend to do comparatively well in the current situation, in the sense of reducing the number of fatalities in their population.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwittenbergcox/2020/04/13/what-do-countries-with-the-best-coronavirus-reponses-have-in-common-women-leaders/#2e66375b3dec

[Herman]

So my comment is a death threat to her? You know what, your avatar and signature line fits you perfectly. Probably the only self-awareness moment you ever had.

Of course it's not a death threat, but your comment feeds the idea that she is a bad and ruthless person, just based on a picture.

[Irons]

In the UK to fill 24/7 Coronavirus coverage both televised and print (I don't know what will get me first, that or the virus itself!) to the exclusion of everything else. The present national debate is face masks the "experts" are telling us they do not work, but are they saying that because we don't have any. What is the consensus here - do face masks give any protection?

[MusicTurner]

I can't find a consensus either. It might reduce risks on a modest level.

Same variation from the various experts as regards

- washing with hand soap versus disinfection hand gel, and
- recommended high temperatures for washing clothes, and
- dealing with food products and their packing

etc.

[Florestan]

Of course it's not a death threat, but your comment feeds the idea that she is a bad and ruthless person, just based on a picture.

My comment feeds nothing at all. It's one of a myriad comments made on an anonymous internet board frequented regularly by two dozen people at most, many of whom are left-leaning* to begin with. It's as inconsequential as any other, yours included.

*nothing wrong with that, of course; I'm just stating a fact.

[SimonNZ]

Does that excuse your misogyny?

[Florestan]

Does that excuse your misogyny?

Another one! (not that I didn't expect it). What the hell is wrong with you guys? I just expressed the first thought that crossed my mind on seeing the picture of a particular woman. Mysogyny my a$$. But looks like for some people virtue signalling has simply become a second nature, they can't help it anymore and no matter what one says. I'm sure that had I expressed my admiration for her beatiful and attractive physical features you'd have accused me of being sexist. Yeah, whatever.

[prémont]

Yes I've come across this before, presumably due to less road traffic accidents and less deaths from other infectious deceases due to social distancing, hand washing etc.

Theoretically we may end up having fewer deaths, because the number of corona deaths don't "compensate" for the missing flu deaths of people with chronic lung- and heart diseases. The most comforting thing is, that more or probably most of the corona deaths affect the same people, who would have died from these other causes.

[Mandryka]

Theoretically we may end up having fewer deaths, because the number of corona deaths don't "compensate" for the missing flu deaths of people with chronic lung- and heart diseases. The most comforting thing is, that more or probably most of the corona deaths affect the same people, who would have died from these other causes.

In the UK and in France, hospital A&E and GPs are reporting a considerable (maybe 50%) reduction in the number of non-COVID cases they're seeing. This is probably because people are afraid to see their doctor, because of the disease. Everyone here is bracing themselves for the consequences of this, i.e. patients arriving late and in a serious state with a condition less easy to treat if they'd had asked for help earlier. A friend of mine who works in St Georges Hospital in Tooting, London, in fact told me last night that he had to deal with two very serious cases of peritonitis where the patients delayed seeing a doctor until the pain was unbearable. Another friend who lives in Strasbourg said he met a nurse who told him that there has been much less to do in the regular (non-COVID) A&E dept of their largest hospital - Strasbourg has been very seriously impacted by COVID.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Theoretically we may end up having fewer deaths, because the number of corona deaths don't "compensate" for the missing flu deaths of people with chronic lung- and heart diseases. The most comforting thing is, that more or probably most of the corona deaths affect the same people, who would have died from these other causes.

I saw a story yesterday morning which gave brief histories/tributes to some of the non-famous people who recently died; one, in particular, had me choked up.  It was a story of a typically sweet, sometimes goofy, brother (with photos and videos provided by his sister).  He was 30 years old and a very healthy fitness instructor and loved his new baby niece.

[André]

In the UK and in France, hospital A&E and GPs are reporting a considerable (maybe 50%) reduction in the number of non-COVID cases they're seeing. This is probably because people are afraid to see their doctor, because of the disease. Everyone here is bracing themselves for the consequences of this, i.e. patients arriving late and in a serious state with a condition less easy to treat if they'd had asked for help earlier. A friend of mine who works in St Georges Hospital in Tooting, London, in fact told me last night that he had to deal with two very serious cases of peritonitis where the patients delayed seeing a doctor until the pain was unbearable. Another friend who lives in Strasbourg said he met a nurse who told him that there has been much less to do in the regular (non-COVID) A&E dept of their largest hospital - Strasbourg has been very seriously impacted by COVID.

The same trend has been noted here, with 40% less patients checking in at the Cardiology Institute. What prompts someone to seek immediate help is the chest pain. But this goes away in a day or two as the heart tissue dies. When the pain is gone, the damage has become irreversible and the person thinks it was just an indigestion or a cramp.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

More photos from Michigan protest:




Idiot can't spell "Whitmer".

Boston Globe article as good as any:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chanting-e2-80-98lock-her-up-e2-80-99-michigan-protesters-in-maga-hats-demonstrated-against-whitmer-e2-80-99s-coronavirus-restrictions/ar-BB12JlnL


Regarding the blocked ambulance:

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2020/04/16/sparrow-lansing-fire-department-no-ambulances-issues-during-protest/5145522002/

Thank you for those links!

Best wishes,

PD

[JBS]

Of course it's not a death threat, but your comment feeds the idea that she is a bad and ruthless person, just based on a picture.

When I saw that photo, my first reaction was to think they had chosen one that would evoke a negative reaction.

Here is perhaps a more positive countenance

[drogulus]

When I saw that photo, my first reaction was to think they had chosen one that would evoke a negative reaction.

Here is perhaps a more positive countenance

     I detect a certain malevolent socialism even in this pic. That's just my first thought on the matter.

[Kaga2]

When I saw that photo, my first reaction was to think they had chosen one that would evoke a negative reaction.

Here is perhaps a more positive countenance

Has anyone here ever posted a picture of Trump looking angry, or malevolent, or stupid, or confused?

Rhetorical question.

[Florestan]

Splendid teeth and perfect match between hair color and shirt. Not bad, not bad at all.

[drogulus]

Has anyone here ever posted a picture of Trump looking angry, or malevolent, or stupid, or confused?

Rhetorical question.

     Trump's anger, malevolence, stupidity and confusion are well known and demonstrated in many non-photo ways.

     

     I do wonder how it is that this photo got out. I should consult Hume on miracles.

[Iota]

What is the consensus here - do face masks give any protection?

My understanding is that a face mask protects others from you, rather than the other way round, which seems logical to me. But as all advice on Covid 19 by definition has had to be hastily put together, the degree of certainty can't be very high.
The BBC news was reporting yesterday for example that newer research had concluded that droplets from a cough project farther than originally thought, which may affect future compulsory wearing of face masks in busier places e.g.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52126735


I saw the following on another forum, an antibody study suggesting that the coronavirus may be far more widespread also than previously thought, which might offer a ray of light for a return to less stringent restrictions. Like all Covid 19 studies it's speculative and early stages, but if it's corroborated by other studies, it may lead somewhere interesting.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/antibody-study-suggests-coronavirus-is-far-more-widespread-than-previously-thought

[Kaga2]

There are a couple of detailed posts on masks higher up.

If you wear a mask treat its working surface as a danger and be careful how you handle it.

[greg]

Another one! (not that I didn't expect it). What the hell is wrong with you guys? I just expressed the first thought that crossed my mind on seeing the picture of a particular woman. Mysogyny my a$$. But looks like for some people virtue signalling has simply become a second nature, they can't help it anymore and no matter what one says. I'm sure that had I expressed my admiration for her beatiful and attractive physical features you'd have accused me of being sexist. Yeah, whatever.

It's basically a religion at this point, so yep, that's how it works. Even smart people can be affected, sadly.

But you gotta be kidding about the "beautiful features." No idea who this lady is, but at least from that photo, that is one ugly face.