Coronavirus thread

[SimonNZ]

groan...and whose "choice" is it when she then passes the virus on to everyone she comes into contact with, including anyone elderly or already siclk?

6 Trump campaign members in Tulsa test positive for the coronavirus ahead of rally

[Karl Henning]

So if she ended up in a respirator this is her own choice. Wonder if she has given this problem sufficient attention.

And she's buying a stairway to Tulsa . . .

[Karl Henning]

Daily coronavirus cases in the United States on Friday exceeded 30,000 for the first time in seven weeks, with states in the South and West continuing to report alarming spikes in new infections.

[drogulus]

     

     That doesn't look good.

     

     No one knows where antifa will strike next.

[MusicTurner]

Tests here show that about 1/5 of former corona patients will still be tested positive one month after their recovery, but that they don't infect other people at that stage.

Dextamethason is now being used in Danish hospitals, it is available, cheaper and apparently more effective than Remdesivir.

[71 dB]

     

     That doesn't look good.

Yeah, doesn't look good, but is totally expected considering how the crisis has been handled. In Finland (where we have a more or less competent government) it looks like this:

[T. D.]

Yeah, doesn't look good, but is totally expected considering how the crisis has been handled. In Finland (where we have a more or less competent government) it looks like this:

Great points. But you also have to consider that the USA has become one of the most intellectually backward "major countries". It's not just the government (as malign and breathtakingly incompetent as it is); a large percentage of the population will simply refuse to comply with public health measures.

[Karl Henning]

Great points. But you also have to consider that the USA has become one of the most intellectually backward "major countries". It's not just the government (as malign and breathtakingly incompetent as it is); a large percentage of the population will simply refuse to comply with public health measures.

Ayyup!

[arpeggio]

One of the groups I am a member of is the City of Fairfax Band.

Our music director, Robert Pouliot, sent us the following:

"Finally, for those who may question our statements as overly cautious, we ask you to consider this: there is a case where a community chorus in Washington State decided it was time to start gathering to make music again, with disastrous results. Of the 60 members who met (out of 120), around 50 contracted the virus, three were hospitalized and two died (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6919e6.htm).  As best as can be determined, the spread was from one asymptomatic person at the rehearsal. Hand sanitizer was passed out as people arrived and the group avoided their normal hugging, handshaking and physical interaction. Understandably, we seek to avoid CFBA being noted as the source of the next "outbreak" of this kind."

[Mandryka]

One of the groups I am a member of is the City of Fairfax Band.

Our music director, Robert Pouliot, sent us the following:

"Finally, for those who may question our statements as overly cautious, we ask you to consider this: there is a case where a community chorus in Washington State decided it was time to start gathering to make music again, with disastrous results. Of the 60 members who met (out of 120), around 50 contracted the virus, three were hospitalized and two died (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6919e6.htm).  As best as can be determined, the spread was from one asymptomatic person at the rehearsal. Hand sanitizer was passed out as people arrived and the group avoided their normal hugging, handshaking and physical interaction. Understandably, we seek to avoid CFBA being noted as the source of the next "outbreak" of this kind."

I guess where there's a lot of deep huffing and puffing, breathing out from deep inside the lungs, i.e wind instruments, vocalists, then the risk of transmission is augmented. This is maybe one reason to avoid gyms, unfortunately (going to the gym is one of the things I miss most.)

[Todd]

E.U. May Exclude U.S. as It Reopens Borders, Citing Failures on Virus

[Karl Henning]

I guess where there's a lot of deep huffing and puffing, breathing out from deep inside the lungs, i.e wind instruments, vocalists, then the risk of transmission is augmented. This is maybe one reason to avoid gyms, unfortunately (going to the gym is one of the things I miss most.)

Singers and wind players are trained to project air.  A disease borne by breath droplets will spread throughout the room.

[André]

I received a survey from the Orchestre métropolitain asking subscribers what kind of set up, setting and schedule we'd feel comfortable with come September, assuming that social distancing would still be required (it will).

I asked that they consider moving the wind and brass players (the huffing and puffing brigade) in the section behind and above the stage, leaving the stage platform to the percussion and strings. This way we'd get the full complement. Otherwise they would have to offer us a chamber orchestra version of themselves - with the inevitable program changes that would require.

[T. D.]

Funny stuff in a way...From Bloomberg:

EU May Exclude U.S. as Borders Open: NYT (1:49 p.m. NY)
European Union officials could exclude the U.S. in its plans to reopen borders on July 1 because it has failed to control the outbreak there, the New York Times reported, according to draft lists it said it viewed.

European nations are currently discussing two potential lists of acceptable visitors based on how countries are handling the pandemic, the Times reported. A final decision on reopening the borders is expected early next week, before the bloc reopens on July 1.

[drogulus]

Funny stuff in a way...From Bloomberg:

EU May Exclude U.S. as Borders Open: NYT (1:49 p.m. NY)
European Union officials could exclude the U.S. in its plans to reopen borders on July 1 because it has failed to control the outbreak there, the New York Times reported, according to draft lists it said it viewed.

European nations are currently discussing two potential lists of acceptable visitors based on how countries are handling the pandemic, the Times reported. A final decision on reopening the borders is expected early next week, before the bloc reopens on July 1.

     Build the TrumPutin Wall!

[T. D.]

     Build the TrumPutin Wall!

Don't overlook Bolsonaro, the other member of the troika.

[drogulus]

     

[Florestan]

I received a survey from the Orchestre métropolitain asking subscribers what kind of set up, setting and schedule we'd feel comfortable with come September, assuming that social distancing would still be required (it will).

I asked that they consider moving the wind and brass players (the huffing and puffing brigade) in the section behind and above the stage, leaving the stage platform to the percussion and strings.

Beside upsetting the acoustics balance, what would that change/achieve?

[T. D.]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53167780

Projected US death toll up to "180,000 by October". A smaller 146,000 if 95% of population wear masks - yeah, sure, that'll happen.

[T. D.]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-53174415/they-want-to-throw-god-s-wonderful-breathing-system-out

Before holding a vote to mandate the wearing of masks in public places to stop the spread of coronavirus, Palm Beach County commissioners were harangued by residents who accused them of obeying the devil, imposing a communist dictatorship and dishonouring the American flag.

Florida has just reported a daily record of 5,508 new coronavirus infections, bringing its total number of confirmed infections to 109,014, with 3,281 deaths.

American exceptionalism!