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T. D.

Most of the World May Face Covid Without a Vaccine
"There will be another wave, and it will be very serious."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-18/covid-most-of-world-to-face-virus-without-vaccine-expert-says

Que

Quote from: T. D. on July 18, 2020, 02:54:37 AM
Most of the World May Face Covid Without a Vaccine
"There will be another wave, and it will be very serious."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-18/covid-most-of-world-to-face-virus-without-vaccine-expert-says

Unfortunately it is human nature to deny the severity of a serious situation out of fear of having to face reality, until it is too late.... 

Q

T. D.

I fear this will have a paywall (I'm a subscriber), but...
The Economist has an article assessing the chances of an "October Surprise" for the Orange Swindler.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2020/07/18/donald-trump-is-hoping-for-a-covid-19-treatment-by-november

drogulus

Quote from: T. D. on July 18, 2020, 05:22:37 AM
I fear this will have a paywall (I'm a subscriber), but...
The Economist has an article assessing the chances of an "October Surprise" for the Orange Swindler.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2020/07/18/donald-trump-is-hoping-for-a-covid-19-treatment-by-november

     You Google the title then link to the cached page.

     Donald Trump is hoping for a covid-19 treatment by November
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BasilValentine

I live in Essex County NY, which has one of the lowest case counts in the state and 0 fatalities from Covid-19. It's also a "red" county. Here mask compliance indoors — outdoor crowding is not an issue — has been universal and unquestioned. Some people are even hiking with masks, which is kind of weird, but, better overkill than non-compliance. People here got a direct, simple, unambiguous message and they are following it. It just requires minimally competent leadership.

Todd

Quote from: T. D. on July 18, 2020, 05:22:37 AM
I fear this will have a paywall (I'm a subscriber), but...
The Economist has an article assessing the chances of an "October Surprise" for the Orange Swindler.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2020/07/18/donald-trump-is-hoping-for-a-covid-19-treatment-by-november


Hopefully, OWS works.  I have doubts, but it is worth the effort and money.  Indeed, $13 billion seems light.  Uncle Sam should spend a trillion or more if needed.  Whatever it takes.  Whoever the president.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

drogulus

#2606
     One has to weigh carefully whether it's worth a few thousand extra deaths to deny Trump the WH.

     Oh......sorry.......my mirroring module misfired.

     It has come up on occasion that the Dems are trying to make the viral and economic situation better even though it potentially could get Trump reelected. Why aren't they McConnelling him? Is it naivete, or an overactive sincerity gland?





     
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BasilValentine

Quote from: drogulus on July 18, 2020, 12:00:19 PM
     One has to weigh carefully whether it's worth a few thousand extra deaths to deny Trump the WH.

     Oh......sorry.......my mirroring module misfired.

     It has come up on occasion that the Dems are trying to make the viral and economic situation better even though it potentially could get Trump reelected. Why aren't they McConnelling him? Is it naivete, or an overactive sincerity gland?

It's virtue signaling.

drogulus

Quote from: BasilValentine on July 18, 2020, 12:07:23 PM
It's virtue signaling.

     I don't have a window into souls, but I wouldn't mind punching holes in them to see if there really are millions of tiny robots inside.
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T. D.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/18/white-house-seeks-to-block-funds-for-testing-in-coronavirus-relief-bill-report.html

Which references (possible paywall with Post):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/07/18/white-house-testing-budget-cdc-coronavirus/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-failure-leadership.html

The White House is trying to block billions of dollars for coronavirus testing and contact tracing in the upcoming stimulus relief bill, according to a new report in The Washington Post, even as infections surge across the country and Americans face long wait times to receive test results amid high demand. 

The Trump administration also wants to block billions of dollars that would go toward bolstering the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Pentagon and the State Department to combat the pandemic, the Post reported Saturday, citing people familiar with the deliberations. 

The White House declined CNBC's request for comment.

Some GOP lawmakers, angered by the administration's position, are pushing back and trying to keep the $25 billion for testing and tracing in the bill, people involved in the negotiations told the Post. Some White House officials reportedly believe new money shouldn't be allocated for testing because previous assistance funds remain unspent.

While moving to block testing assistance, the Trump administration is trying to use the legislation to fund priorities unrelated to the pandemic such as a new FBI building, according to the Post.

The Post report comes just hours after a piece in The New York Times detailed how the White House sought to shift responsibility for dealing with the pandemic to the state governments with disastrous results. The Times' report was based on interviews with state and administration officials as well as emails and documents.

vandermolen

I was interested to receive a letter from the Office for National Statistics asking if I'd be willing to participate in their Coronavirus testing survey which I agreed to do. You get periodically tested over several weeks and you get paid as well!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Que

#2611
The Americas now seem the main battleground:


steve ridgway

We bumped into the vicar of this church at the end of our walk today. He said there were about 15 people at the service, maintaining social distancing, and the service was shorter than it used to be as they weren't allowed to sing. They'd still been ringing the bells though, we could hear them in the distance.


vandermolen

Quote from: steve ridgway on July 19, 2020, 04:18:26 AM
We bumped into the vicar of this church at the end of our walk today. He said there were about 15 people at the service, maintaining social distancing, and the service was shorter than it used to be as they weren't allowed to sing. They'd still been ringing the bells though, we could hear them in the distance.
My wife went to church this morning for a socially-distanced service with no singing. Only one bell was allowed to ring (or maybe only one person was allowed to ring it). My wife said that it was a lovely service although the microphone wasn't working. It was videod for members of the congregation who couldn't attend. Unfortunately the camera was mis-aligned so that everything was on its side  8)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

steve ridgway

Quote from: vandermolen on July 19, 2020, 05:32:47 AM
My wife went to church this morning for a socially-distanced service with no singing. Only one bell was allowed to ring (or maybe only one person was allowed to ring it). My wife said that it was a lovely service although the microphone wasn't working. It was videod for members of the congregation who couldn't attend. Unfortunately the camera was mis-aligned so that everything was on its side  8)

I'm sure there will be an appropriate quote for that somewhere in the Bible ;).

vandermolen

Quote from: steve ridgway on July 19, 2020, 06:59:15 AM
I'm sure there will be an appropriate quote for that somewhere in the Bible ;).
I'm sure you're right  :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

steve ridgway

Quote from: vandermolen on July 19, 2020, 07:06:09 AM
I'm sure you're right  :)

I just googled it. Isaiah 8. Oops :-[.

19 When people tell you, "Try out the fortunetellers. Consult the spiritualists. Why not tap into the spirit-world, get in touch with the dead?" 20 Tell them, "No, we're going to study the Scriptures." People who try the other ways get nowhere - a dead end! 21 Frustrated and famished, they try one thing after another. When nothing works out they get angry, cursing first this god and then that one, Looking this way and that, 22 up, down, and sideways - and seeing nothing, A blank wall, an empty hole. They end up in the dark with nothing.

Karl Henning

Quote from: BasilValentine on July 18, 2020, 09:31:07 AM
I live in Essex County NY, which has one of the lowest case counts in the state and 0 fatalities from Covid-19. It's also a "red" county. Here mask compliance indoors — outdoor crowding is not an issue — has been universal and unquestioned. Some people are even hiking with masks, which is kind of weird, but, better overkill than non-compliance. People here got a direct, simple, unambiguous message and they are following it. It just requires minimally competent leadership.

Verily.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

T. D.

#2618
Absurdity of the day (but it's early yet...):

Donald Trump called U.S. virus testing "the envy of the world" on "Foaux News Sunday"

Trump Calls Fauci 'an Alarmist' (9:50 a.m. NY)
President Donald Trump said Anthony Fauci, the U.S. government's top infectious-disease expert, is a "little bit of an alarmist" but that the two men have a "great relationship."

Trump made the comments in a lengthy interview on "Faux News Sunday" after members of his administration have criticized Fauci. The president also said he'd heard the U.S. has the "best mortality rate" related to the virus. He provided White House data that undercut his argument, showing the U.S. rate isn't the lowest.

"We are the envy of the world," Trump said about testing.

BWV 1080

The link between blood type and Covid-19 is BS

Native Americans are nearly 100% type O, yet Covid-19 rages across Latin America and threatens to wipe out indigenous groups in the Amazon.

and this study was just published


"We showed through a multi-institutional study that there is no reason to believe being a certain ABO blood type will lead to increased disease severity, which we defined as requiring intubation or leading to death," said senior study author Anahita Dua, HMS assistant professor of surgery at Mass General.

"This evidence should help put to rest previous reports of a possible association between blood type A and a higher risk for COVID-19 infection and mortality," Dua said.

https://hms.harvard.edu/news/covid-blood-type