Coronavirus thread

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Thanks PD much appreciated. I'm trusting that Vitamin D and red wine will see me through the crisis. The Headmistress gave us all a bottle of wine as a thank you which was nice.

Nice!  I hope that it was something, er...shall we say...decent? 

I forget, how is Vitamin D supposed to help?  I try and remember to take me vitamins in the morning after breakfast. 

PD

[71 dB]

I forget, how is Vitamin D supposed to help?  I try and remember to take me vitamins in the morning after breakfast. 

PD

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-77093-z

Vitamin D deficiency markedly increases the chance of having severe disease after infection with SARS Cov-2. The intensity of inflammatory response is also higher in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients. This all translates to increase morbidity and mortality in COVID-19 patients who are deficient in vitamin D. Keeping the current COVID-19 pandemic in view authors recommend administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-77093-z

Vitamin D deficiency markedly increases the chance of having severe disease after infection with SARS Cov-2. The intensity of inflammatory response is also higher in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients. This all translates to increase morbidity and mortality in COVID-19 patients who are deficient in vitamin D. Keeping the current COVID-19 pandemic in view authors recommend administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.

Thanks db,

That was sweet of you.   

PD

[71 dB]

Thanks db,

That was sweet of you.   

PD

You are welcome PD. That was Googled and copy pasted in seconds. 

[Que]

CNN right now (December 15, 2020 23:49 Romanian Time) commenting on this:

New Poll: Most Black Americans Either "Wait and See" or Refusing to Take the Vaccine.

What are they then? Obviously smart or obviously stupid? Tertium non datur.

CNN: Some Black and Latino Americans are still hesitant to take the vaccine. Here's what is fueling that distrust

[Florestan]

CNN: Some Black and Latino Americans are still hesitant to take the vaccine. Here's what is fueling that distrust

Immediateky after posting I was sorry for not taking a picture of the CNN screen. I swear to God they posted what I quoted. I trust you trust I/m neither a liar nor a racist.

[Que]

Immediateky after posting I was sorry for not taking a picture of the CNN screen. I swear to God they posted what I quoted. I trust you trust I/m neither a liar nor a racist.

I wouldn't dare to suggest anything of the sort. Perhaps Putin's fake news factory was at work? 

Anyway,  I was joking and you were trolling.

And yes, there is obviously a tertium

Q

[Florestan]

you were trolling.

Only if logic means trolling.

If P, then Q.
P.
Then Q

If 80% of a given group are willing to vaccinate, then that group is smart.
80% of Danish are willing to vaccinate.
Then Danish are smart.

If not Q, then not P.
Not Q.
Then not P.

CNN, December 15, 2020, 23:49: New Poll: Most Black Americans Either "Wait and See" or Refusing to Take the Vaccine.

Once again, my only fault is not taking a screenshot.

[T. D.]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-15/covid-cases-strike-in-statehouses-with-mask-averse-lawmakers

https://www.concordmonitor.com/Dick-Hinch-New-Hampshire-speaker-death-interim-leadership-37714107

No one may ever know precisely where New Hampshire House Speaker Richard Hinch contracted the virus that killed him last week. But some of his fellow Republicans believe they have a culprit.

Two indoor events at a ski lodge -- one to celebrate the party's just-won control of the House and one to get organized -- led to an outbreak in the legislature. Masks were the exception at both. Hinch died Dec. 9, seven days after being sworn in as House speaker.

"Those in our caucus who refused to take precautions are responsible for Dick Hinch's death," tweeted Republican state Representative William Marsh, a retired ophthalmologist.

"Incredibly, incredibly irresponsible" Republican Governor Chris Sununu added in a news conference the next day, accusing officials of flouting health guidance "to make some bizarre political point."

Hinch's death at the age of 71 is sending a chill through state legislatures around the country, many of which are either already meeting or planning to next month. It came just three days after the announcement that Rudy Giuliani, an attorney for President Donald Trump, had been hospitalized with Covid-19 after participating in unmasked legislative hearings in Michigan, Arizona and Georgia.

[Karl Henning]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-15/covid-cases-strike-in-statehouses-with-mask-averse-lawmakers

https://www.concordmonitor.com/Dick-Hinch-New-Hampshire-speaker-death-interim-leadership-37714107

No one may ever know precisely where New Hampshire House Speaker Richard Hinch contracted the virus that killed him last week. But some of his fellow Republicans believe they have a culprit.

Two indoor events at a ski lodge -- one to celebrate the party's just-won control of the House and one to get organized -- led to an outbreak in the legislature. Masks were the exception at both. Hinch died Dec. 9, seven days after being sworn in as House speaker.

"Those in our caucus who refused to take precautions are responsible for Dick Hinch's death," tweeted Republican state Representative William Marsh, a retired ophthalmologist.

"Incredibly, incredibly irresponsible" Republican Governor Chris Sununu added in a news conference the next day, accusing officials of flouting health guidance "to make some bizarre political point."

Hinch's death at the age of 71 is sending a chill through state legislatures around the country, many of which are either already meeting or planning to next month. It came just three days after the announcement that Rudy Giuliani, an attorney for President Donald Trump, had been hospitalized with Covid-19 after participating in unmasked legislative hearings in Michigan, Arizona and Georgia.

Asses!

[vandermolen]

That is nice;  hang in there, Jeffrey!

Cheers Karl

[T. D.]

https://news.yahoo.com/hand-grasping-trump-appointees-describe-133636121.html

'Like a Hand Grasping': Trump Appointees Describe the Crushing of the CDC

[Florestan]

You were trying to "frame" me and make me look bad, by putting nasty stuff in my mouth.

Not at all. I too was joking but if you really think that, I apologize and I assure you I had no such intentions.

[MusicTurner]

One of the worsening days here in DK, 3700 newly registered, 14 fatalities (total is 975), 54 new hospitalized, but also 115.000 tested, which is a lot. They're announcing new restrictions later this evening. Various hospital surgeries are starting to become postponed.

Very different from the much more subdued summer days. Christmas buzz also a player, it's indoor season traditionally, etc.

Vaccines to start in slightly more than a week, at first for 40,000 elderly at retiring homes, and certain other folks, especially health workers.

[T. D.]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/we-want-them-infected-trump-hhs-appointee-said-in-email-pushing-to-expose-infants-kids-and-teens-to-covid.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/trump-official-pushed-for-herd-immunity-strategy-emails-show

A Trump administration official sought to speed the spread of the coronavirus among children and young adults in order to achieve "herd immunity," according to documents released by a top House Democrat.

Paul Alexander, a senior adviser at the Department of Health and Humans Services, repeatedly encouraged adoption of a policy to increase the number of virus infections among younger Americans, saying they have "zero to low risk," according to documents released by the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis.
...
In a series of messages during the summer, Alexander continued to make the case to other officials to open up college campuses and businesses to increase the spread among the young and relatively healthy, while maintaining distancing measures for the elderly.

"The issue is who cares? If it is causing more cases in young, my word is who cares," Alexander said in a July message. "As long as we make sensible decisions, and protect the elderely [sic] and nursing homes, we must go on with life....who cares if we test more and get more positive tests."

In August, President Donald Trump expressed support for the approach, saying the virus would "go away" once herd immunity was reached. However, other Trump officials, including Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, denied that the administration was pursing herd immunity as a way to handle the virus.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/trump-appointee-demanded-herd-immunity-strategy-446408

A top Trump appointee repeatedly urged top health officials to adopt a "herd immunity" approach to Covid-19 and allow millions of Americans to be infected by the virus, according to internal emails obtained by a House watchdog and shared with POLITICO.

"There is no other way, we need to establish herd, and it only comes about allowing the non-high risk groups expose themselves to the virus. PERIOD," then-science adviser Paul Alexander wrote on July 4 to his boss, Health and Human Services assistant secretary for public affairs Michael Caputo, and six other senior officials.
"Infants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle aged with no conditions etc. have zero to little risk....so we use them to develop herd...we want them infected..." Alexander added.


"t may be that it will be best if we open up and flood the zone and let the kids and young folk get infected" in order to get "natural immunity...natural exposure," Alexander wrote on July 24 to Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn, Caputo and eight other senior officials. Caputo subsequently asked Alexander to research the idea, according to emails obtained by the House Oversight Committee's select subcommittee on coronavirus.

[Karl Henning]

Thursday's report was the first to designate more than half of the communities in Massachusetts high risk for COVID-19.

[BasilValentine]

Only if logic means trolling.

If P, then Q.
P.
Then Q

If 80% of a given group are willing to vaccinate, then that group is smart.
80% of Danish are willing to vaccinate.
Then Danish are smart.

If not Q, then not P.
Not Q.
Then not P.

CNN, December 15, 2020, 23:49: New Poll: Most Black Americans Either "Wait and See" or Refusing to Take the Vaccine.

Once again, my only fault is not taking a screenshot.

Perhaps the Danes were never promised free medical care by their government and then knowingly allowed to die of untreated syphilis over a period of forty years. Stuff that information up your syllogism. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study

[71 dB]

Social distancing managed by plushies:

https://www.youtube.com/v/yVbiadltWMY

[T. D.]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55385768

Covid: Belgium and Netherlands ban flights from UK over variant


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-20/u-k-s-hancock-says-new-covid-mutatation-is-out-of-control

U.K. Health Secretary Matt Hancock warned that the new strain of the coronavirus is "out of control" and suggested parts of England will be stuck in the new, highest tier of restrictions until a vaccine is rolled out.

More than 16 million Britons are now required to stay at home after a lockdown came into force Sunday in London and southeast England and the government scrapped plans to relax rules on socializing at Christmas.

The measures to control the fast-spreading new variant of the virus forbid household mixing in those areas and restrict socializing to just Christmas Day across the rest of England. Residents across the country were told to keep to their local areas, and extra police were being deployed at rail stations to stop people traveling out of London.

"Cases have absolutely rocketed, so we've got a long way to go," Hancock told Sky News. "I think it will be very difficult to keep it under control until the vaccine has rolled out." People in the new Tier 4 areas "should behave as though they have it," he said.

[Carlo Gesualdo]

You know what irritated me about this covid-19 pandemic lack of responsability from youth t(that proabably won't die) and old folks that think like donkey lucky one vs middle age person that  watch out?

See, adolescent s and youth should had to skip class and economie I mean stupid bar closes okay. What wrong whit this province, look my father stubborn old man He will go out 12-14 time a day eventually for is darn lottery ticket and beers. Now he would feel sick stomach ache but  let hope it's not that virus, the worst part was  my mother  I don't live there I have my house said you gonna contaminated us paranoia, yet her husband  go out 12 time a days for stupid beers and lottery ticket, I am so mad at my father, than the youth think it's a joke and cough out of joke in bus, god damn little sob.

Dammit I am mad now, the problem is not about everyone buut old folks and youth desensitized to this pandemic.This is the problem and middle age man and womans feel trap in this. Why drinking 6 canns aof groshl beer so darn important each day and darn lottery is my father a town idiot or something, for myself I would avoid  goeing out the best I can , and cancel a gathering(because it's against the law) that someone play at my house  he had invited 4 people , I did not answer when the bell ring and did not answer when the phone rings,  I was so mad, What just happen is I fall asleep whit my phone suddenly it  buzz and message: we are coming over , no don't please don't come over I said texting but it was too late  they were on there way so I just shut the door both and lurk in darkness. If pandemic don't kill you darns fools will