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steve ridgway

Quote from: Todd on February 17, 2024, 05:38:49 AMFrom the Gray Lady:

Covid Shots for Children

Much of the world has decided that most young children don't need to receive Covid booster shots. The U.S. is an outlier.


Trust the science, etc.

As you quoted elsewhere, "Other words used in variable meanings, in most cases more or less dishonestly, are: class, totalitarian, science, progressive, reactionary, bourgeois, equality."

"Science" for me means physics, chemistry, biochemistry in the sense of understanding how living cells actually work. The word "Decided" reveals a lesser degree of certainty.

Todd

Quote from: steve ridgway on February 17, 2024, 08:21:15 PMAs you quoted elsewhere, "Other words used in variable meanings, in most cases more or less dishonestly, are: class, totalitarian, science, progressive, reactionary, bourgeois, equality."

I did?  And then I posted my last post in this thread?  Hmmm, what's the connection?
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Wendell_E

Quote from: T. D. on February 17, 2024, 06:05:35 PMI'm inclined to agree, because (though it's just anecdotal), a lot of people have been getting Covid around here.

But I don't like vaccine availability. I've gotten 5 Covid shots, all Pfizer, last one March or April 2023, minimal side effects apart from sore arm.
But I can't find Pfizer. There's just Moderna (which gave bad side effects to some family members and acquaintances) or Novavax (about which I know nothing).

I had the 2 shingles shots last year and each installment had serious side effects, so I would rather stick with the Covid shot I've had decent experience with.

I had some fairly mild effects from my 1st shingles shot, nothing from the 2nd.

A week or so ago, I got the new COVID vaccine (Pfizer) and the RSV on the same day. I had a mild fever the next day (100.5°F), but was back to normal the next morning.
"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." ― Mark Twain

DavidW

Quote from: steve ridgway on February 17, 2024, 08:21:15 PMAs you quoted elsewhere, "Other words used in variable meanings, in most cases more or less dishonestly, are: class, totalitarian, science, progressive, reactionary, bourgeois, equality."

"Science" for me means physics, chemistry, biochemistry in the sense of understanding how living cells actually work. The word "Decided" reveals a lesser degree of certainty.

There is a difference between a scientist and a policy maker.  I don't expect everyone on the forum to understand, but I'm glad to see that you do and are trying to educate others. :)

Karl Henning

Quote from: DavidW on February 18, 2024, 09:02:28 AMThere is a difference between a scientist and a policy maker. 
Forsooth!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Madiel

Quote from: DavidW on February 18, 2024, 09:02:28 AMThere is a difference between a scientist and a policy maker.  I don't expect everyone on the forum to understand, but I'm glad to see that you do and are trying to educate others. :)

Education also requires a desire to learn.
Freedom of speech means you get to speak in response to what I said.

T. D.

Quote from: Wendell_E on February 18, 2024, 06:27:55 AMI had some fairly mild effects from my 1st shingles shot, nothing from the 2nd.

A week or so ago, I got the new COVID vaccine (Pfizer) and the RSV on the same day. I had a mild fever the next day (100.5°F), but was back to normal the next morning.

I think I found the new Pfizer Covid vaccine...just have to drive to a CVS (ugh) chain drugstore about 50 minutes away.

My shingles vaccine side effects were unpleasant but not truly bad. First one I felt low-level rotten for several days. Second one I was incapacitated for about 36 hours, fever and aches. Fever was a bit over 101, which hits me hard because my "normal" temp is just over 97.

krummholz

Until last fall, Shingrix was the only vaccine that had ever given me a "robust systemic reaction", i.e. chills, fever, myalgias, basically feeling like I was coming down with the flu. And it came on while I was on a hike, to add to my misery.

Then this fall I had the RSV vaccine and the "adjuvanted" high-dose flu vaccine together. Gave me much the same reaction as the Shingrix, plus it aggravated a rotator cuff issue I've had for a few years.

The reason was the pharmacy technician jabbed the needle not into the lower deltoid as I had asked, but almost into the rotator cuff itself. This was my second vaccine injury at the hands of CVS. I will NEVER AGAIN go to them for a vaccination.

Daverz

Quote from: krummholz on February 19, 2024, 06:38:38 PMUntil last fall, Shingrix was the only vaccine that had ever given me a "robust systemic reaction", i.e. chills, fever, myalgias, basically feeling like I was coming down with the flu. And it came on while I was on a hike, to add to my misery.

Then this fall I had the RSV vaccine and the "adjuvanted" high-dose flu vaccine together. Gave me much the same reaction as the Shingrix, plus it aggravated a rotator cuff issue I've had for a few years.

I had the flu shot, Shingrix, and a TDAP (tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis) booster at the same time and spent a few hours in bed with cold sweats the next day.  Very much worth it as shingles sounds like something you really do not want. I didn't have any problems with the RSV or second Shingrix shots (or with any the Covid shots, all Pfizer).   

Karl Henning

Quote from: krummholz on February 19, 2024, 06:38:38 PMUntil last fall, Shingrix was the only vaccine that had ever given me a "robust systemic reaction", i.e. chills, fever, myalgias, basically feeling like I was coming down with the flu. And it came on while I was on a hike, to add to my misery.

Then this fall I had the RSV vaccine and the "adjuvanted" high-dose flu vaccine together. Gave me much the same reaction as the Shingrix, plus it aggravated a rotator cuff issue I've had for a few years.

The reason was the pharmacy technician jabbed the needle not into the lower deltoid as I had asked, but almost into the rotator cuff itself. This was my second vaccine injury at the hands of CVS. I will NEVER AGAIN go to them for a vaccination.
Yikes!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

T. D.

I haven't had any vaccines at CVS. My local outlet is too grimy and the employees too dopey.
The CVS outlet with Pfizer is in a bigger town, so I may chance it.
I'll get the flu shots elsewhere, as there are alternatives I trust more.

I've had shingles before, though a mild case. My brother and some semi-neighbors have had bad cases. Shingles is definitely something to avoid. Vaccine hit me hard, but it's better than the ailment.

Karl Henning

I've tested negative for Strep, Flu and 'Vid, and apparently suffering from the "none of the above" virus. When I try to speak (which I don't anymore) I rather suspect laryngitis. Rather a Blah week.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: Karl Henning on February 20, 2024, 09:46:34 AMI've tested negative for Strep, Flu and 'Vid, and apparently suffering from the "none of the above" virus. When I try to speak (which I don't anymore) I rather suspect laryngitis. Rather a Blah week.
Hope that you feel better soon.

PD

krummholz

Quote from: Karl Henning on February 20, 2024, 09:46:34 AMI've tested negative for Strep, Flu and 'Vid, and apparently suffering from the "none of the above" virus. When I try to speak (which I don't anymore) I rather suspect laryngitis. Rather a Blah week.

Sounds very much like what I've had for the last week. Only tested for Covid (twice negative), but the main symptom is laryngitis - bad laryngitis. Definitely NOT something a teacher needs.

VonStupp

Quote from: Karl Henning on February 20, 2024, 09:46:34 AMI've tested negative for Strep, Flu and 'Vid, and apparently suffering from the "none of the above" virus. When I try to speak (which I don't anymore) I rather suspect laryngitis. Rather a Blah week.
Speedy recovery!
It seems there is so much icky stuff swirling around families right now. I have students who are out for a week at a time with various maladies, and me muddling through this laryngitis-sinus-cold-whatever it is, which is quite annoying.
VS
"All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff."

Karl Henning

Quote from: krummholz on February 20, 2024, 10:28:04 AMDefinitely NOT something a teacher needs.
Nor a choir director. Mend quickly!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Pohjolas Daughter


Karl Henning

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on February 20, 2024, 11:17:16 AMCould it be RSV?

PD
Don't think so; when the mrdic checked my lungs, I was told they sounded "perfect." and my Oxygen level was 97%
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Spotted Horses

Quote from: Karl Henning on February 20, 2024, 11:31:53 AMDon't think so; when the mrdic checked my lungs, I was told they sounded "perfect." and my Oxygen level was 97%

RSV can cause upper respiratory infections, which would not involves the lungs. It can cause lower respiratory tract infections as well.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Spotted Horses on February 20, 2024, 12:59:09 PMRSV can cause upper respiratory infections, which would not involves the lungs. It can cause lower respiratory tract infections as well.
Thanks for the corrective.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot