Leonard Bernstein conducting

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Papageno

An American conducting Mahler, ha!

DavidW

Quote from: Novi on September 13, 2009, 01:06:54 PM
On the topic of seeing Lenny, I really like his Ravel's Concerto in G, where he conducts from the piano. It's in the same DVD concert series, Bernstein in Paris.

http://www.youtube.com/v/xjdAyy1xatA


That was awesome!  Thanks for sharing that. :)

karlhenning

Quote from: Brian on September 13, 2009, 11:32:16 AM
Frankly, were I a composer, I would be very happy to listen to what other people heard in my music. I would be flattered to discover that my way wasn't the only way. So yes, that precept makes a lot of sense. Composers probably appreciate hearing their music in a way they don't expect (...unless it sucks  ;D ).

I am sure that I do (and I haven't written a single note that sucks, to date  8) )

MichaelRabin

LB in Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue (Sony/CBS), Goldmark - Rustic Wedding Sym (Sony) and Beethoven Str Quartets (orch version) Op131 & 135 (VPO on DG)

snyprrr

1) Harris 3/ Schuman 3- DG

2) Ives DG???

3) Schuman 3/5/8- Sony

DavidW

Quote from: snyprrr on September 13, 2009, 06:08:55 PM
1) Harris 3/ Schuman 3- DG

2) Ives DG???

3) Schuman 3/5/8- Sony

What?  What!?  What!?!?!  The snips listens to things other than SQs!?!?! :o :o :o :o

;D

karlhenning

Quote from: DavidW on September 13, 2009, 11:34:17 AM

Quote from: BrianFrankly, were I a composer, I would be very happy to listen to what other people heard in my music. I would be flattered to discover that my way wasn't the only way. So yes, that precept makes a lot of sense. Composers probably appreciate hearing their music in a way they don't expect (...unless it sucks   ).

Cue Karl-- experiences?  opinions? :)

Probably the first (short) piece I had written for organ solo, I had a very specific tempo in mind.  I had written it before I had met any organist here in Boston, though.  Anyway, when a friend of mine did read it through at the console, he was a little cautious of the piece, and he played it a good deal slower than I had 'imagined' the piece.  I like it slow, too, as a result.

vandermolen

These are my favourites - also Shostakovich Symphony No 7 (Sony and DGG versions):

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

david johnson

Quote from: Papageno on September 13, 2009, 01:33:24 PM
An American conducting Mahler, ha!

of course!  nothing better than the americans, but some as good :)

dj

Papageno

Quote from: david johnson on September 14, 2009, 04:08:53 PM
of course!  nothing better than the americans, but some as good :)

dj

Last year I downloaded the Complete Mahler DVD set with Bernstein, only to find out that it was a waste of my time, I deleted the whole thing without second thought.  The two names I swear to for Mahler are Klemperer and Walter.

Daverz

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Quote from: Papageno on September 14, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
Last year I downloaded the Complete Mahler DVD set with Bernstein, only to find out that it was a waste of my time, I deleted the whole thing without second thought.  The two names I swear to for Mahler are Klemperer and Walter.

I find Klemperer too austere and Walter too nice in Mahler.  Bernstein's first go around with this music holds up very well.



 







The last has the Sibelius 5 with the NYP.

Also, his Shostakovich (he recorded 1, 5-7, 9 and 14), all his Copland and Ives.


bwv 1080

They are all Mahler - probably 4, 5 & 3

vandermolen

Yes, the Sony William Schuman CD is terrific.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

david johnson

Quote from: Papageno on September 14, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
Last year I downloaded the Complete Mahler DVD set with Bernstein, only to find out that it was a waste of my time, I deleted the whole thing without second thought.  The two names I swear to for Mahler are Klemperer and Walter.

i agree w/klemperer & walter, i keep more otto on hand than i do bruno.  bernstein is never my favorite, but he isn't a waste of time.

dj

Papageno

Quote from: Daverz on September 14, 2009, 09:15:57 PM
I find Klemperer too austere and Walter too nice in Mahler.


Perhaps, but his austerity emphasises profundity.  He pays so much attention to detail - take Das Lied von der Erde as an example, Walter's and Klemperer's, although Walter's recording is of historic value - with Ferrier and and Patzak - Walter isn't as meticulous as Klemperer, Klemperer's recordings are almost in slow-motion, you can hear every detail, so powerful my skin crawls,  which just gives me a an intense desire to shoot myself.

Dana

      No fair! The thread name is 3 favorite Bernstein recordings! Some of you are picking six or more, and the inclusion of box sets is downright cheating!

DavidW

Quote from: Dana on September 15, 2009, 06:36:57 AM
      No fair! The thread name is 3 favorite Bernstein recordings! Some of you are picking six or more, and the inclusion of box sets is downright cheating!

Woops my eyes just glazed right over the 3.  <ducks> ;D

MN Dave

This is the only Bernstein I feel comfortable recommending:


springrite

Hindemith Symphony in E flat

Harris Symphony #3

Mahler 5 (DG)
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Tahar Mouslim

#219
It seems to me, as I have been quickly browsing the thread, that nobody made mention of this disc:



It is an important cd, because - let us be honest - Lenny did not get any long lasting special affinity with the music of any of the composers featured on this cd, but, during this particular time of his long tenure with the NPO, at least he tried, and he tried his best.

Out of  "last pieces" by Morty, for example, has rarely been played as good as in this rendition, at least till conductors as MichaĆ«l Gielen or Hans Zender in Germany or MTT in the US decided to play it regularly in concerts.

I did not see a mention of this other cd either:



and, this one is really thrilling to me, both in terms of music (3 masterpieces) & in terms of rendition: I feel the affinity of Lenny with this music while listening it.

I just don't know why one can't listen more often to the Lopatnikoff concerto in concert: it is a superb work!