orchestral unknown

[inqui]

Any ideas?

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

It's a very famous piece. A waltz, but I can't remember by whom...

[otterhouse]

Delibes: coppelia. 

Rolf

(hé, hi Jeezetha!)

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Delibes: coppelia. 

Rolf

(hé, hi Jezetha!)

Thanks for helping me out... 


Why not introduce yourself here, you are interesting enough:

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/board,2.0.html

[otterhouse]

Thanks Jezetha,

It's the Mazurka, by the way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMVcbKIvqJU

The Waltz is also very well known. Last year, I went in to a second hand record shop in Delft (NL) and searched between a pile of classical 45 rpm's. There I found a 7# record from 1902 with this waltz. It's those records that were used on the gramophone pictured in the "His masters voice" logo:

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=pCMGHNECGRU

Will give a post in the "introduction" forum soon...

Greetings,
Rolf

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Thanks, Rolf (and for your upcoming intro). I did have my doubts about that 'waltz' designation. Mazurka it is.

[Maciek]

Hello, Rolf!

This is a great pleasure. You may not be aware of this, but your site has many fans on GMG. And you can count me among them!

Have fun here!

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Small world, Maciek. I have 'known' Rolf as a parent at my daughter's school for 4 years (his son is in the same class). And only 2 weeks ago I discovered he and I had something in common: a love of classical music... !

[Maciek]

I think I discovered the otterhouse site thanks to Andre (Lilas Pastia) who is a regular there as well. I download almost every single installment. (These last months I've been missing stuff because my computer is constantly out of order )

[choppin]

I listened to another recording of this and I must say, it sounds like it was ripped off from Das Rheingold. The first thirty seconds of the prelude and 6 minutes before Das Rheingold ends are similar enough, and they were even composed at roughly the same time, that it can't be a coincidence.

[Maciek]

The thread is going in all sorts of directions, so I'm asking this just to make sure I understand correctly: you mean to say you suspect that the Mazurka from Coppelia is a rip-off of something from Wagner?

[choppin]

The thread is going in all sorts of directions, so I'm asking this just to make sure I understand correctly: you mean to say you suspect that the Mazurka from Coppelia is a rip-off of something from Wagner?

More or less, yes.

[Maciek]

Hm, I haven't checked Das Rheingold but somehow this seems a bit improbable - I don't think this piece is the sort of thing anyone (even Delibes ) would have to rip off from anywhere. It's the sort of standard mazur that composers such as Moniuszko or Kurpiński wrote in droves decades earlier. (And frankly, as much as I actually like Delibes and find this very charming, I'd say they did a much better job. ) But I guess I shouldn't be saying anything without checking the Wagner first... 0:)