Silvestre Revueltas (1899-1940)

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Quote from: vandermolen on April 12, 2011, 01:00:11 PM
Thanks very much - yes, it was you who recommended this attrative looking set. The problem here is that I already have one of the discs - a really great compilation with music by Orbon, Chavez etc. But, my CD OCD wil probably mean that Iwont resist the temptation - especially after your recomendation. I guess that I can always try to sell the separate CD. Now, off to the Amazon site  :o

You're welcome. You could probably sell that CD pretty easily. I think this set is a great investment as most of the recordings are out-of-print. The packaging and booklet are top-notch. The CDs are housed in cardboard sleeves and remind me of the collector's editions of Bernstein on DG with the elongated boxes and cardboard sleeves. This makes the discs easy to remove. The music in this set is priceless. You'll enjoy it, no doubt about it.

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Finally, this thread has two pages. Now if I can only get it up to 40 like the Brian thread. :D

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Why are so many people down on Latin American music? I mean is it about exposure? Why exactly do people continue to neglect this area of classical music? It seems that only a specialized group of listeners listen to this music. I mean I think anyone who enjoys Stravinsky or Bartok would enjoy Revueltas.

vandermolen

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Quote from: Mirror Image on April 12, 2011, 02:03:27 PM
Finally, this thread has two pages. Now if I can only get it up to 40 like the Brian thread. :D

I ordered the Mata set - 5 CDs for the price of one full-price CD seems good + the Revueltas double set for £5.00. Will report back in due course.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

some guy

I am an anyone who likes both Stravinsky and Bartok very much, and I don't particularly care for Revueltas. Nothing to do with Latin America, either. Many of my favorites happen to be from Latin America, Estrada, Justel, Mandolini, Kasem, Ferreyra, Kagel. (Seems like when I do a "top of the head" list that Argentina wins!)

springrite

I have just one Revueltas CD, the one by Salonen/LA Phil, and I love it! I would certainly be interested in getting more if available on BRO, which is the only place I order CDs now since I came back to China. I make probably two orders every year.

Of all the South American composers, Revueltas stands out for me (also V-L), even though I have only heard that one CD.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

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Quote from: vandermolen on April 12, 2011, 10:35:12 PM
I ordered the Mata set - 5 CDs for the price of one full-price CD seems good + the Revueltas double set for £5.00. Will report back in due course.

Excellent, vandermolen! Can't wait to hear your impressions of the music.

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Quote from: some guy on April 12, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
I am an anyone who likes both Stravinsky and Bartok very much, and I don't particularly care for Revueltas. Nothing to do with Latin America, either. Many of my favorites happen to be from Latin America, Estrada, Justel, Mandolini, Kasem, Ferreyra, Kagel. (Seems like when I do a "top of the head" list that Argentina wins!)

The main problem with this post is you don't tell anybody why you don't like Revueltas.

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Quote from: springrite on April 12, 2011, 11:52:31 PM
I have just one Revueltas CD, the one by Salonen/LA Phil, and I love it! I would certainly be interested in getting more if available on BRO, which is the only place I order CDs now since I came back to China. I make probably two orders every year.

Of all the South American composers, Revueltas stands out for me (also V-L), even though I have only heard that one CD.

Have checked out any Ginastera? I think you'd enjoy his music immensely.

springrite

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 13, 2011, 06:32:02 AM
Have checked out any Ginastera? I think you'd enjoy his music immensely.

Just the Harp Concerto and some piano music.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

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Quote from: springrite on April 13, 2011, 06:53:05 AM
Just the Harp Concerto and some piano music.

I think his ballets would be right up your alley. Its as if Stravinsky had gone to live in Argentina and absorbed that culture's folk music and traditions.

jowcol

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 13, 2011, 06:55:55 AM
I think his ballets would be right up your alley. Its as if Stravinsky had gone to live in Argentina and absorbed that culture's folk music and traditions.

I particularly like Panambi, the Stravinsky influence is really strong.  Great work.
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Quote from: jowcol on April 13, 2011, 06:57:03 PMI particularly like Panambi, the Stravinsky influence is really strong.  Great work.

Panambi is a great work. I plan on revisiting this one soon. I've been getting back into Latin American composers lately. I seem to go through these phases: one month may be East Europeans, next month Russians, the next month French, etc. I always come to back to Latin America.

vandermolen

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I discovered a CD in my collection from Guatemalan composer Ricardo Castillo (1894-1966) - I had forgotten that I had it and what with the interest here in Revueltas and South American composers I thought that I should play it. It is great! The music which gets a couple of useful reviews on the US Amazon site is described as 'brutal, lyrical, meditative' and has been compared to the music of Stravinsky (in 'Rite of Spring' mood) and Sviridov  There are lots of repeating rhythms, reminiscent of Chavez at times. I suspect that admirers of Revueltas, Villa Lobos, Chavez or Orbon would enjoy this hauntingly atmospheric music very much.

I can't get the Amazon CD image to appear here but the CD is in the Maco Polo Latin-American Classics series and contains 'Paal Kaba' (ballet), Rhapsody for Orchestra 'Estelas de Tikal', 'La Doncela Ixquic' (Symphonic Poem), 'Abstraccion' and 'Instantaneas Plastcas'. I played the CD right through with much enjoyment. It seems to be available quite cheaply on the Amazon UK site.

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Quote from: vandermolen on April 14, 2011, 05:04:33 AM
I discovered a CD in my collection from Guatemalan composer Ricardo Castillo (1894-1966) - I had forgotten that I had it and what with the interest here in Revueltas and South American composers I thought that I should play it. It is great! The music which gets a couple of useful reviews on the US Amazon site is described as 'brutal, lyrical, meditative' and has been compared to the music of Stravinsky (in 'Rite of Spring' mood) and Sviridov  There are lots of repeating rhythms, reminiscent of Chavez at times. I suspect that admirers of Revueltas, Villa Lobos, Chavez or Orbon would enjoy this hauntingly atmospheric music very much.

I can't get the Amazon CD image to appear here but the CD is in the Maco Polo Latin-American Classics series and contains 'Paal Kaba' (ballet), Rhapsody for Orchestra 'Estelas de Tikal', 'La Doncela Ixquic' (Symphonic Poem), 'Abstraccion' and 'Instantaneas Plastcas'. I played the CD right through with much enjoyment. It seems to be available quite cheaply on the Amazon UK site.

Yes, vandermolen, I have those Marco Polo discs which feature Ricardo Castillo. Very interesting composer indeed. I do need to revisit his music as it's been awhile since I listened to both of those discs. As you may or may not know, there is one Marco Polo recording dedicated to nothing but Castillo's music and then the other one he's coupled with another Guatemalan composer Martinez-Sobral.

vandermolen

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 14, 2011, 06:30:37 AM
Yes, vandermolen, I have those Marco Polo discs which feature Ricardo Castillo. Very interesting composer indeed. I do need to revisit his music as it's been awhile since I listened to both of those discs. As you may or may not know, there is one Marco Polo recording dedicated to nothing but Castillo's music and then the other one he's coupled with another Guatemalan composer Martinez-Sobral.

I've just ordered the Castillo - Sobral CD and I see that Castillo's Third Symphony is available - I am tempted!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

snyprrr

Quote from: some guy on April 12, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
I am an anyone who likes both Stravinsky and Bartok very much, and I don't particularly care for Revueltas. Nothing to do with Latin America, either. Many of my favorites happen to be from Latin America, Estrada, Justel, Mandolini, Kasem, Ferreyra, Kagel. (Seems like when I do a "top of the head" list that Argentina wins!)

I particularly like Revueltas's fritz'd edges, and general, apparent, dirtiness. He reminds me of the Musical Pigpen (from Peanuts).  Nasty and drunk Mexican debauchery!! I AM surprised he hasn't spoken to you. I have the Mata/RCA 2cd, the SQs, and the Dorian chamber music cd.

John Belushi would have made a great Revueltas! ;)

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Quote from: vandermolen on April 14, 2011, 08:33:26 AM
I've just ordered the Castillo - Sobral CD and I see that Castillo's Third Symphony is available - I am tempted!

I wasn't aware that Ricardo Castillo composed any symphonies. Hmmm....

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Quote from: snyprrr on April 14, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
I particularly like Revueltas's fritz'd edges, and general, apparent, dirtiness. He reminds me of the Musical Pigpen (from Peanuts).  Nasty and drunk Mexican debauchery!! I AM surprised he hasn't spoken to you. I have the Mata/RCA 2cd, the SQs, and the Dorian chamber music cd.

John Belushi would have made a great Revueltas! ;)

LOL! This is a great post. :D Yes, Revueltas that dirty Mexican drunk! :P Damn, he was awesome. 8)

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I can just picture Revueltas stumbling out of a bar in Mexico yelling "Tequila! ¡Necesito más tequila!" and then passing out next to a horse. Who knows this may be the inspiration for Janitizo which he composed in 1933, then he realized in 1936 that he couldn't make heads or tails out of this score so he revised it. :P