Which symphony has the most poweful ending?

Started by Bruckner is God, March 19, 2011, 10:26:16 AM

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Which one of these symphonies has the most powerful and hair-raising ending?

Brahms 4
9 (20%)
Mahler 3
6 (13.3%)
Bruckner 5
13 (28.9%)
Beethoven 7
2 (4.4%)
Sibelius 2
7 (15.6%)
Schubert 9
0 (0%)
Shostakovich 5
8 (17.8%)

Total Members Voted: 37

Palmetto

isn't that the standard for another 'art form'?  :P

Oh, and I'd say 'moving' would be a good synonym.  I'll abstain from voting since I haven't heard any of the referenced pieces yet, or at least don't recognize that I have.

Lethevich

I picked Bruckner's 5th, but the one that comes to mind most readily is Dvořák's 7th. It may not be the longest or most hyper symphony, but it ties the work together so well and is very cathartic, but also mildly chilling. Super stuff :)
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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Palmetto on March 21, 2011, 09:51:43 AM
isn't that the standard for another 'art form'?  :P

I have no idea what you mean  ;D ;)


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"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
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Wanderer

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 21, 2011, 08:21:26 AM
I may not be able to define it but I know powerful when I hear it  ;D

Succinctly put.  ;D

I also object to the implied notion that a poll  thread about disparate symphonic endings should have any less aspirations to silliness than the multitude of similar poll threads before it.  $:)

karlhenning

Not sure anyone said anything about silly.

But I am enjoying my popcorn, thank you very much
; )

Of course, the poll at the start of the thread says powerful and hair-raising.

And some of us have scalp follicles which are always up for some stimulation . . . .

Gurn Blanston

Without Beethoven's 9th, which would raise MY hair if I had any, the poll loses all credibility. :-\

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karlhenning

Also missing from the poll is the Shostakovich Leningrad, which, when the Mariinka performed it in Worcester's Mechanics Hall, may well have been the most powerful ending to any symphony in a performance I have witnessed.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Apollon on March 21, 2011, 10:49:34 AM
Also missing from the poll is the Shostakovich Leningrad, which, when the Mariinka performed it in Worcester's Mechanics Hall, may well have been the most powerful ending to any symphony in a performance I have witnessed.

Yeah, I know. I'm sure the OP doesn't want us to complain about what isn't there, but The 9th! Just sayin'... :-\

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Grazioso

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Quote from: Brian on March 21, 2011, 08:18:57 AM
but what if there's a powerful quiet ending, like Zemlinksy's Lyric Symphony?

Or Pettersson's 7th? A whisper can be more dramatic than a shout.

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 21, 2011, 11:02:42 AM
Yeah, I know. I'm sure the OP doesn't want us to complain about what isn't there, but The 9th! Just sayin'... :-\

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Is that the one where the big guy starts singing about tuna?  He must be hungry  ;D
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mahler10th

My definition of powerful in music is in its touch.  It can do as much blasting, ripping and throwing daisies as it likes, but how does the effect of the music in consideration affect my thoughts?  For example, I consider Lutoslawski a powerful composer because his works have a tendency to alter the electromagnetic pathways of my brian and send me to Neptune and back, that is why he is powerful to me.  Mahlers 10th and Schmidts 4rth can OVERWHELM me with sadness.  They are powerful works.  Sibelius leaves me feeling reflective and damnable intense.  He is a powerful composer for me.  The power is in how intensely the music makes me respond, whether it is loud, quiet or whatever.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Grazioso on March 21, 2011, 11:14:52 AM
Is that the one where the big guy starts singing about tuna?  He must be hungry  ;D

YES! That's the one, right there! See, how could you leave that out?  ???

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Brian

Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on March 21, 2011, 09:57:51 AM
I picked Bruckner's 5th, but the one that comes to mind most readily is Dvořák's 7th. It may not be the longest or most hyper symphony, but it ties the work together so well and is very cathartic, but also mildly chilling. Super stuff :)

Yeah, that ending is simply apocalyptic, to these ears. You don't need a battery of percussion and reinforced brass to make it feel like all the world is collapsing around you...

Opus106

Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on March 21, 2011, 09:57:51 AM
Dvořák's 7th. It may not be the longest or most hyper symphony, but it ties the work together so well and is very cathartic, but also mildly chilling. Super stuff :)

Quote from: Brian on March 22, 2011, 01:51:19 AM
Yeah, that ending is simply apocalyptic, to these ears. You don't need a battery of percussion and reinforced brass to make it feel like all the world is collapsing around you...

I feel that it's AD's tribute to Don Giovanni (or to his fate).
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Brahmsian

Quote from: Opus106 on March 22, 2011, 06:09:06 AM
I feel that it's AD's tribute to Don Giovanni (or to his fate).

Off topic:  No word of a lie, the Commendatore statue in this performance of Don Giovanni, looks a lot like Antonin Dvorak!   ;D

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Sef

.... and if powerful can be quiet and reflective then Bruckner's 9th always affected me deeply. During a very heavy depressional episode a few years back the ending went round and round my head for weeks.
"Do you think that I could have composed what I have composed, do you think that one can write a single note with life in it if one sits there and pities oneself?"

Grazioso

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 21, 2011, 01:08:53 PM
YES! That's the one, right there! See, how could you leave that out?  ???

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JonathanConway

How could anyone not be affected by the ending of Bruckner's 4th ("The Romantic")?

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Grazioso on March 22, 2011, 10:03:35 AM
O Freunde, nicht diese Töne Tuna!
Sondern laßt uns angenehmere Fische essen,
    und freudenvollere.

  ;D

Hmm, something smells fishy in here; must be that doggerel-fish.... :P

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DavidW

Tchaikovsky's 6th and Shostakovich's 8th.  Powerful to me, as in moving not as in bombastic. ;D