5 bonafide masterpieces written during the 1970s

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James

April 06, 2015, 06:04:42 AM
Ligeti, Melodien
Birtwistle, The Triumph of Time
Boulez, Rituel
Stockhausen, Mantra
Dutilleux, Tout un monde lointain...

Your selections .. ?
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Mirror Image

#1
April 06, 2015, 07:12:08 AM Last Edit: April 06, 2015, 07:14:36 AM by Mirror Image
The term 'masterpiece' means something different to everyone, so the title of this poll is beyond ridiculous.

Karl Henning

#2
April 06, 2015, 07:35:54 AM
bona fide is two words.  Just saying.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

EigenUser

#3
April 06, 2015, 08:18:19 AM
Ligeti San Francisco Polyphony (Melodien works too, but I'll pick something new)
Messiaen Des Canyons aux Etoiles
Reich Music for 18 Musicians
Feldman Rothko Chapel

Can't yet think of a fifth that isn't already by a composer above...
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

EigenUser

#4
April 06, 2015, 08:25:27 AM
Quote from: sanantonio on April 06, 2015, 08:21:37 AM
I purposely left out Rothko for you.

;D
I was going to say that your list made me literally laugh out loud when I saw it (not because I think it is a funny list, but because of the recent discussion on GMG).
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

ibanezmonster

#5
April 06, 2015, 08:27:29 AM
I'm sensing a pattern with these threads. Hmm, what could it be...?

Karl Henning

#6
April 06, 2015, 08:33:32 AM
Quote from: Greg on April 06, 2015, 08:27:29 AM
I'm sensing a pattern with these threads. Hmm, what could it be...?

Just crippled symmetry.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Christo

#7
April 06, 2015, 08:46:26 AM
Quote from: Greg on April 06, 2015, 08:27:29 AMI'm sensing a pattern with these threads. Hmm, what could it be...?

An irrepressible desire that certain composers - e.g. Shostakovich, or Arnold, Dutilleux, Saygun, Englund, Lutosławski, Rautavaara, Holmboe, Rubbra or Schnittke - should have been living in another time.  8)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Todd

#8
April 06, 2015, 09:13:25 AM
DSCH – String Quartet 13
DSCH – String Quartet 14
DSCH – String Quartet 15
DSCH – Symphony 15
Carter – String Quartet 3
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Karl Henning

#9
April 06, 2015, 09:23:44 AM
Louis Andriessen, De staat
John Adams, Shaker Loops
Chas Wuorinen, Archæopteryx
Shostakovich, Viola Sonata
Holmboe, Quartetto rustico
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

#10
April 06, 2015, 12:52:20 PM
Kokkonen: Symphony 4
Arnold: Symphony 7
Gorecki: Symphony 3 'Symphony of Sorrowful Songs'
Rubbra: Symphony 10 'Sinfonia da Camera'
Shostakovich: Symphony 15
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

#11
April 06, 2015, 12:54:20 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on April 06, 2015, 09:23:44 AM
Louis Andriessen, De staat
John Adams, Shaker Loops
Chas Wuorinen, Archæopteryx
Shostakovich, Viola Sonata
Holmboe, Quartetto rustico

Great list - love the Shostakovich work.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Sergeant Rock

#12
April 06, 2015, 01:35:38 PM
Rautavaara Cantus Arcticus
Shostakovich Symphony No.15
Crumb Black Angels
Del Tredici Final Alice
Williams Star Wars
Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Havergal Brian Symphony No.32 (1968...so close  ;D )
Berio Sinfonia (1969...so close  ;D )


Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Christo

#13
April 07, 2015, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 06, 2015, 12:52:20 PMKokkonen: Symphony 4
Arnold: Symphony 7
Gorecki: Symphony 3 'Symphony of Sorrowful Songs'
Rubbra: Symphony 10 'Sinfonia da Camera'
Shostakovich: Symphony 15

all five endorsed!  :)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Karl Henning

#14
April 08, 2015, 04:03:26 AM
Hmm, wonder if I should like that Rubbra . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

#15
April 08, 2015, 10:34:59 AM
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

#16
April 08, 2015, 10:37:44 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on April 08, 2015, 04:03:26 AM
Hmm, wonder if I should like that Rubbra . . . .

Am sure you would Karl it is quite a short work and rather like a synthesis of earlier works; rather Sibelian in that sense (like No.7). That's my view anyway. It is also moving in a reflective way I think.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

North Star

#17
April 11, 2015, 03:11:52 AM
Silvestrov: Silent Songs (1974-7)
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

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Karl Henning

#18
April 17, 2015, 07:34:08 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on April 08, 2015, 10:37:44 AM
Am sure you would Karl it is quite a short work and rather like a synthesis of earlier works; rather Sibelian in that sense (like No.7). That's my view anyway. It is also moving in a reflective way I think.

I've not yet listened to № 4, but I've very much enjoyed № 10 & 11.  I think this may be the first I have actually listened to Rubbra . . . I once owned a disc with both Schoenberg's arrangement of the Brahms piano quartet, and Rubbra's of (I think) the Variations on a Theme of Handel.  I'm not at all sure I actually listened to the Rubbra back then.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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#19
December 14, 2016, 03:33:39 AM
Glass: Satyagraha
Adams: Christian Zeal and Activity
Rautavaara: Vigilia
Part: Cantus in Memoriam Benjamin Britten
Shostakovich: Symphony No. 15
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